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  1. 7 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

    With Castro you get a hard throwing guy that struggles with control.

    It's 2020, those guys are a dime a dozen. Almost every major league bullpen has multiple guys who can throw 96+. Castro has been the same player for 5 years and going on 4 teams with moderate improvement along the way. He will be costly next year and will enter free agency soon after that. There is absolutely no way he was going to be a part of the Os hopeful competitive future given his service time. A back of the rotation starter is more valuable than a middling/unreliable reliever. 

  2. DD made a bunch of bad moves here, particularly at the end. Bad trades, burning high value draft picks for bad players, letting Cruz and Markakis go and replacing them with Trumbo and Snyder. It's pretty obvious now that he is not on the hook for the Davis deal but I think if you average out DD's good moves with his bad moves I think you get an average to below average tenure as GM here given the state of things when he left. Seems like people are way quicker to give him the benefit of the doubt than Elias so far when Elias is literally in the process of fixing the previous regime's mistakes.

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  3. 57 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

    Really? The only deal that looks good so far is the Givens trade. None of the others are clear yet and the 1 for 1+ Castro deal traded a major league reliever for what could be a fringe 5th starter or AAAA.  Smith has some upside but I’m sure he’s a productive back end rotation guy at best.

    Miguel Castro isn't good. Getting that return for him is, on paper, good value. I haven't seen a single scout or analyst say anything otherwise. Castro actually just blew the game yesterday. 

  4. 5 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

    The shortened season, and extra roster size, no burden of a Rule 5 player, and Davis being “hurt”, has really allowed us to keep the pen fresh so that they can be set up for success. 

    A decent rotation leads to a decent bullpen. Idk what the 2021 rotation looks like, but we need more than what we have to set the bullpen up for success. Cobb, Means, Wojo, Akin, vet MILB FA deal, isn’t looking too good over 162. 

    Not expecting either of these guys to be superstars or anything but Kremer and Zimmerman should be in the running for next year's rotation. If not, something has gone wrong.

  5. Mullins ceiling was always going to be a 4th OF/premium defensive replacement. Him and perhaps Alberto are the only players on the team I want bunting. It kinda annoys me that the Os keep bunting in extra innings. It's really not a great strategy when the other team also gets to star with a runner on second. When they are competitive I really hope they really limit doing that if the extras rule is still in place.

  6. 53 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

    Agreed.  We seem to have some high end talent but it falls off pretty quickly.

    I think this was true to start the year but the system is starting to fill out depth wise. The deals at the deadline gave us some top 20 guys as well as presumably more to come. Also it's clear Elias' draft was also focused on getting quantity going underslot in the first and going overslot on the high schoolers. To become a number 1 system they need to start signing better international classes which I believe is already happening.

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  7. 42 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

    OK, but Hill got a really good prospect in Conine. That's my point. That Hill could get a prospect as highly valued as RF Conine, who mashed in his soph and junior years at Duke and has continued in the minors is truly impressive for a couple weeks of Villar. That Elias got bupkiss for an entire year of a signed Villar doesn't reflect well by comparison.


    How can you compare this season to the season prior? It's a totally different market. Also, I don't think Conine is nearly as good of a prospect as you are describing. He didn't even make Keith Law's top 20 and he's pretty firmly a 40FV guy. I'm sure Elias got rid of Villar knowing he was going to go after Iglesias and it seems like he could not have been more right about how they would play this year. We can see what they are eventually able to get for Iglesias and then revisit this.

  8. I honestly do not want to sound like sour grapes here but it seems like it's fair to say the Marlins got extremely lucky with the circumstances of this season that they were able to move Villar. Villar, as i predicted, came crashing down to earth this year so in terms of Iglesias vs Villar, it seems like Elias nailed his evaluation there. If the Os are able to get something for Iglesias either in the winter or at the deadline next year in addition to Lucas then we can re-evaluate.

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  9. I wonder if uncertainty that the season finishes will play into the deadline. Might have to be a player the trade partner would get to have beyond this season. If that's the case, Means and Cobb could be attractive. Iglesias could return a flier similar to the Cashner return. However, I think he can have an immensely positive impact on developing our pitchers with his work in the field. From what I've read, a lot of people were not convinced by Means' performance last year. If he can hold this new velocity then I would imagine that would change.

  10. 3 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

    I heard he has not been impressive with the bat in the "intrasquad games" so not sure if that has anything to do with it as well. 

    Personally, I'd like to see him come up.

    It's extremely unlikey that Elias is making this decision based on a couple of weeks of intrasquad games. Of all the possible reasons he isn't up, this isn't it.

  11. Not sure what the Os gain from Chris Davis bunting. He's not very good at it in the first place and the FO needs to see if he can make the necessary adjustments to regain his power.

  12. 32 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

    My quick answer is usually, "It's millionaires against billionaires trying to split up an exorbitant amount of money while not giving two sh*ts about the fans or the lasting damage they will do to a sport that is declining in popularity." 

    Baseball is still immensely popular. This is not a compelling argument.

  13. 1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

    It's odd to me that people feel the need to come down on one side or another here, players vs owners.

    It's odd to you that people are invested in choosing a side in a labor dispute between two parties that are immensely important to American culture...? That seems odd to ME. I don't see how, say, Hanser Alberto wanting to make 100K more to play a season in the midst of a pandemic where multiple players have already contracted the virus and the Angelos brothers who have been exurbiantly wealthy their entire lives not wanting to take a brief loss for a year are at all on the same level of "suck." We have an owner saying owning an MLB team isn't that profitable and then buying a 9 million dollar LA mansion. It baffles me that you can flip on the TV every night and watch PLAYERS play baseball and then not take their side in a dispute against billionaires.

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  14. 18 hours ago, atomic said:

    I mean how could you side with the players?  

    Very easily. The majority of the players in the league are not millionaires and will have a career of a few years tops. They are in astronomically different financial positions than the average MLB owner and should maximize their earning while in the league. The owners made an awful deal for themselves, they knew 1000% the games were going to be played without fans and now they are trying to get out of it by playing as short a season as possible and trying to skip right to the playoffs. They know they are in trouble which is why the want the players to waive their legal right to file a grievance. As much as people want to live in la la land in this thread, this isn't a "game." It's a job where the labor generates billions of dollars of revenue. The players shouldn't waive their rights because some "fans" think they should for the love of the game. If you do that in any profession, you are a sucker.

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  15. 18 hours ago, atomic said:

    Why would the owners relent?  If you are going to sue if you get the virus that could be quite a liability to the team.  Seems reasonable for the owners to want this.  Players should know the risk and make a decision best for them individually.  

    It's about suing them for not negotiating in good faith and trying to play as many games as possible. The players are under no obligation to waive that right. This was also not a condition the players were expected to adhere to originally. The owners won the stalling match and get their precious 50 game season but they wanted to extract more from the players. It's clear they are at fault here. What does this have to do with the virus? I think you're mistaken.

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  16. 1 hour ago, wildbillhiccup said:

    Wow, so now we're projecting Kjerstad to be better defensively than Martin? I feel like you're on an island of one with that argument. And I hope the goal is to improve the team not make Elias look like a genius. And yes, they two can be mutually exclusive. The fastest way between two points is a straight line. Martin was that straight line, and Elias opted to take the scenic route. 

    I actually didn't make that argument at all. Many don't think Martin can play SS or CF. If he is relegated to second base and doesn't generate as much power as Kjerstad they will be very similar in value. It is not even close to out of the realm of possibility that Kjerstad ends up being a much better power hitter than Martin. Martin isn't Bryce Harper or Arod or Strasburg or even a Rutschman. A few pundits said he was the best player in the draft but clearly 4 other teams did not agree with that.

  17. 36 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

    So DH is a more valuable position? Because that's where I imagine he'll spend the majority of his career. 

    FWIW some people don't think Martin has a good enough arm to play CF, SS or 3B. So you are essentially giving full slot value at the second pick to a second baseman. That is not a highly regarded strategy. If he sticks at one of those positions and hits well then we might be looking at a mistake. But, if Kjerstad out slugs him and plays solid OF defense Elias will look like a genius especially if one of the high schoolers make it up here.

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