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fitzi22

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  1. And this unwillingness to take a chance will slow the Orioles down from pulling out of this death spiral rebuild.
  2. I’m pretty sure weren’t in flip mode when signed those guys. But rather overpay to win now mode ( except for Roberts who was an ownership favorite). So let me get this straight CoC, you are against taking on contracts of good players to enjoy now and flip later for prospects when the time is right?
  3. Because he is highly effective late inning lefty and they are hard to find. Why is there something wrong with resigning a really good player that has done a lot for you and has a lot left in the tank?? Would you guys prefer us to purposely field the worst team we can but still reserve the right to complain about it. Building through the draft is very hit or miss and there are many more misses. The international guys won’t be in the MLB for 5 more years or so. So you can sign quality guys enjoy them while you can and then flip them for prospects when their value is high. The Oakland A’s do this all the time and so do the Rays. For whatever reason we are unwilling to do it. I vote for being able to watch a better baseball product while reserving hope for a better trade return when the time is right and not when we are desperate.
  4. It would be filling a hole with a high quality player that you all incessantly complain about while reserving the right to trade him in the future on the high for some real prospects. Sounds like a win for me. Unless you guys like to complain and find ways for the O’s to save $$$$ for nothing.
  5. The fact of matter is there isn’t a lot of pitching talent on the team this year and there probably won’t be much next year either. The O’s have given away far more pitching talent than we have ever acquired via trade or free agency. It has always been and will continue to be very frustrating to me to watch guys that we had in our system punish us for years while we fail to effectively replace them.
  6. Ah Ah of course I do. And we would have one less reason to complain about our poor pitching while still being able to trade him for something more than the non usable players we got from NY. He is worth more than NY is paying him right now so yes it would have been a savings with a potential of a much better trade return.
  7. That’s why you resign him at a savings instead of trading on the low
  8. It’s not that the O’s traded him. It’s that we are talking about finding guys just like him (homegrown reliable pitchers). Yet we gave this one away to a hated division rival for nothing while we still have the endless discussion of “but maybe the answer is hidden in Bowie”.
  9. Doesn’t hurt any less when we are talking how bad and unreliable our current staff is while he beats us up again as a member of the MFNYY.
  10. It would be nice if we could develop a good left hander with a world class sinker we could insert in high leverage situations at the end of games. Oh wait that guy was traded for nothing and pitched against us yesterday 😥
  11. The issue is you have had 14 players test positive in 24 hours. How many more are infected and will test positive in the coming days? The right thing to do is quarantine everyone that was in that clubhouse for 2 weeks. You can’t bring in new guys to a possibly infected clubhouse, it is simply irresponsible. No one wants to admit this because it very possibly spells the end to the season.
  12. I still think we should have traded Means in the offseason when his trade value was highest.
  13. The 2005 nhl draft was a lottery selection based on recent playoff appearances and #1 draft picks. So if you didn’t make the playoffs because you were bad but weren’t so bad to get the #1 pick, you had a good chance at landing #1. I only remember because I can’t stand Crosby or the Penguins and I still feel this system was setup to benefit them as a franchise. (Likewise it wouldn’t surprise me if MLB tried to handicap it towards a team like the red Sox or Yankees). I also believe it was a serpentine draft which means if you picked #1 you wouldn’t get another pick until the end of the second round. For the record this format would almost certainly not work for MLB as #1 picks never immediately make an effect on the MLB team.
  14. I agree with most posters. I have faith ( I suppose some blind faith) in Elias and this regime. I think in this draft they were more concerned with adding the number of talented guys and not 1 high talent guy. Maybe that’s what we need right now. UDFA’s will show the depth of our talent evaluators and will be interesting.
  15. This guy would be perfect if the L and M were switched
  16. I think it’s a good rule of thumb to assume 5 years development for these guys ..... at least. Although encouraging, this is shaping up to being our best international class ever, it is probably only middle of the road in MLB. Next year should be a rather fantastic class as Kolby’s connections and tons of $$$$ lineup. But this still puts us 5-6 or more years away from seeing the fruits of these efforts. I’m glad to see this aspect of the O’s do a 180 but it just shows how far away we are from trusty competing again. I have a hard time thinking we will be in the playoff picture until 5-6 years from now when our current crop of prospects hit their prime and these international guys start trickling in to the majors.
  17. Drungo, If (big if) John Means has a good first half to this season that mimics his successes from last year and not his shortcomings, yes I believe the Orioles should trade him and I believe they will get some usable quality in return. Means is turning 27 next month and has shown ability to be an all star level left handed pitcher in his prime. Oh and he is controllable for the next 5 years, half of that at a low salary. What playoff team wouldn’t want that? The Orioles need to load up on A+ prospects to come through the system around the same time as Rutschman, Rodriguez and Hall and I think this is an excellent opportunity to load up on guys in that area. Actually getting guys who will be John Means in 2-3 years is exactly what we need to be doing. This team is still at least that far away and probably further away than that
  18. I believe this regime wants guys to earn their way onto the MLB squad and not have it given to them because they hoped they would be better at this point in their development. The exception are cheap AAAA guys with options who you can use and abuse on the Norfolk shuttle. I believe the Orioles brass thinks more highly of Akin (at this point) than to stick him on the shuttle and he certainly hasn’t pitched well enough to be on the MLB squad so back to Norfolk he goes.
  19. No we are the worst of the worst. We only have 2 starting pitchers and 1 of them didn’t pitch last year. Wojo is a coin flip at best most nights and the other 2 slots will be a revolving door of openers and AAAA guys. I think we will lose 100 games both this year and next year. We just don’t have the talent at the MLB level yet.
  20. The orioles classically hold on to players too long and don’t get max value for them when they are able to. Now that’s fine when you are competing for the division or a wild card but the O’s are still 3 years away and maybe more from being in that position. Means is coming off an all star campaign and has 5 more years of cheap controllability which is valuable. He might end up being an all star again but I think the cards are stacked against him. He is 26 and his best years are now. We can keep him during his best years when the team is not competing and then attempt to trade him when he is more expensive and in his 30’s hoping for a decent return (which probably won’t happen) or we can trade him now when his price is at its highest and get players in the A+ minors range to build for a playoff run in the future. Option #1 is what the orioles have classically done over the years that leads to mediocrity. Option #2 is the way out if mediocrity which I would hope is everyone’s goal. I vote for option #2 even though I would love to keep him just so we have someone respectable pitching for us.
  21. I totally agree but they have a plethora of guys coming through now that can fill that role. Kremer, Akin, Bauchman.....etc. We won’t need a 29-30 year old 3-4 pitcher then. His real value is in adding talent in the A+ minors area that can come up with the real wave of talent (Rutschman, Henderson, Hall, Rodriguez)
  22. Yes his last 5 starts were better than better than the previous 2 months ( almost 1 1/2 runs better) but not nearly as good as his first half (more than a run worse). I don’t believe Means is as good as his first half and I hope he isn’t as bad as he was in July and August. He did use his slider more towards the end of the season but he relies heavily on his straight change. Which all though good can be problematic as it only relies on change of speed (his is about 7 mph slower than his fastball) and not change of speed and movement like a split change or circle change which most pitchers use today. Maybe the slider is the answer but he will probably not attain the kind of success he had in the first half last year with his deceptive change up that took the league by surprise. Personally I think he is a good candidate to be traded this year if he can replicate his last 5 starts in the first half of this year. His stock probably won’t be any higher and I think he will only be a 3/4 starter on the next good orioles team in a few years.
  23. Flat out Alex Cobb is incapable of giving you 30 starts and 180 innings (which is about the average for full time starting pitchers). I think Cobb will give us between 20-25 starts (while mixing in pitching blisters and lat strains) which puts him in the 140 inning range. I think he will pitch to about a 4.00 ERA with some starts being spectacular but not consistent. In many ways I view Cobb the same as Ubaldo. Both of their careers will be ending in Baltimore as everyone realizes they are overpaid for mostly inconsistent mediocre results. Long and short of it, he is 100% untradeable regardless of results unless we pick up a good portion of his contract.
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