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  1. I generally agree with you on your premise that Mullins and Means get old and expensive within the general "window", but I disagree with your opinion regarding refusing to compete next year, even though "we could". My opinion, but, I think Elias is doing this thing the right way and I have more faith in his "vision" than any of his predecessors. There is no need to TRY to necessarily expend resources to put out a .500 caliber squad next year when the ultimate goal is to create enough depth at all levels of the system to have assets to utilize when we are "in the window". From his com
  2. I have no dog in the fight, honestly. That was just the first player-to-player prospect comparison that popped up from a credible source.
  3. Jim Callis weighs in: https://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2021/03/callis-compares-wieters-with-rutschman-and-more.html "For one, Matt Wieters has had a good career for a No. 1 overall prospect, and two, no knock on Wieters, but I think Adley Rutschman is a better defensive player and a better hitter than Matt Wieters.” Callis said. “I think the power and arm strength is similar. But as good as Matt Wieters has been, Adley Rutschman is better. “He’s got the best catching tools that I’ve seen in a prospect in 30 years of covering this stuff. He has better all-around tools th
  4. I think there are two paths to go down regarding Adley. Either you run him into the ground and let him walk (if you can't extend him and buy our Arb years in a team friendly extension), or you go the path of getting another College C 1st/2nd Rd pick that can move quickly and join him ASAP. In the 2nd framework, you're attempting to preserve Adley's knees and keep him fresh having him and the other C DH/1B when the other is playing and give him frequent rest with the attempt of getting 10+ years out of him. I say draft pick, because you want the C pairing to also be extremely cheap,
  5. Like SG just said, I don't care who the backup catcher is next year, as long as it's not Severino and they are glove first. I'm not trying to spend 3M on a backup C. Severino's defense and effort is appalling. He needs to go.
  6. Fair enough, but if I'm aiming for 35+ year old vets that should get $3-6 annually, I'm not sure what players you're expecting to get that are younger and better that won't make more than that. If I had it my way, I'd prob get a guy for the league minimum to start until May and then backup the rest of the year.
  7. Which is exactly why I propose not blowing 10 mill+ on a younger, more capable backup, when Adley should be getting most of the playing time after May next year. Either Rutschman is good or he isn't. If he isn't, then that throws a wrench into everything and our ability to compete for a WS in the next 5 years. If he's good, and we can't spend with a top 10 payroll, I'm sorry, I'm spreading my resource funds elsewhere. Those older guys get you through next year and aren't Severino, so that's pretty great just by default.
  8. Yes, this is the great unknown and I'd like to think more fans in the stands in 2022 means more money to spend in 2023, etc. Unfortunately, we just don't know how that works. I don't inherently have a problem with blowing money next year on 1 year deal relievers, but I do in the context of which, if we have 40 mill to spend and it takes 30+ to sign Correa, then I don't want 2-3 relievers next year eating up 15 mill, even if the 15 mill comes off the books after next year, if it means we could have got Correa, but didn't have the funds to do so NEXT YEAR. Agree though I don't know if
  9. If we had unlimited resources, I would do/aim better and higher. Only so many dollars to go around.
  10. Fair point, but I'm skeptical at how much bang for your buck you're getting out of those guys (but I like them as options). At some point, we need to see what guys like Kremer and Brnovich and Mattson and Burdi and Bautista and others have at the ML level (in the bullpen). That time is next year because you don't want to experiment when we're fighting for a WC spot, IMO. You can improve areas of the club for next year while also not locking down bullpen spots with lots of $$. Adding the relievers you mentioned aren't putting us over the top, but they are eating up finite resources th
  11. Lol, if Adley is your C for the future, why are you going after C that arent 35+? Why commit resources to better, younger players for them to ride the bench?
  12. I agree that solid relievers are valuable, but even with consistent types, you have years like Hand/Kenley/Chapman are having where they've imploded to different extents. Look at Familia as another example. I'm not in the business of getting those guys when we're still 2+ years away. Everyone wants their Hader or Andrew Miller, but I'd rather go for those guys when we have a shot at the WS.
  13. SSS but Vogt has been a positive defender the past 2 years. Not sure how it's inconsistent. Next year only matters to me in the sense that you're showing that we are taking stuff slightly more seriously going into 2023/2024 when we should truly start "going for the playoffs". Next year matters in how you want the kids to succeed and you want to surround them with professionals instead of the garbage currently taking up roster space. I'd be happy if the Os had a 8-12 range pick next year, for reference. Enough to show we have improved and our direction is moving upwards.
  14. Exactly. But if the guy isn't in our system currently, to get someone that isnt total garbage, the going rate is probably going to be around 3M. There are far better options at that price point than Severino.
  15. Name some relievers that you'd sign on a 1 year deal for next year and what you think they'd sign for, please. SG brought up an O'Day caliber guy, with a track record, which is fine. But guys of that quality go for $10MM+. Brad Hand, for example, averaged like 1.5 fWAR over the past 4 years or whatever and signed a 1 year deal this past offseason for $10.5. He currently has a -.2 fWAR this year. I just personally don't see what you're accomplishing by signing guys of that ilk or slightly worse at like $7MM on a 1 year deal when, at our VERY BEST, we might be a WC contender next year.
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