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Offense, not pitching is going to be the key to 2011

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The Orioles staff has given up the 4th most walks in the AL...and the most homers.

Not only have they given up the most homers, they are THIRTY ahead of the second place team. That's insane.

They also strike out the 12 least amount of batters. As a staff, they only miss 13% of bats...2% below league average. If I did the math right, that means the Orioles staff has a chance to put 463 balls in play over the average team that throws the same amount of pitches thrown.

What do all of these numbers have in common? They have nothing to do with the defense.

Our pitching blows. Our defense blows. Our hitting is ok at best.

EVERYTHING needs help. You only want to do it one way and you are wrong...wrong..wrong...wrong.

The % of balls put into play could be a reliance on GB pitchers. Extreme GB pitchers typically try to allow more contact and have less K's. When you have a lot of GB pitchers the defense becomes extremely important.

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The % of balls put into play could be a reliance on GB pitchers. Extreme GB pitchers typically try to allow more contact and have less K's. When you have a lot of GB pitchers the defense becomes extremely important.
Trea, stop spinning this.

Our pitching staff gives up a ton of homers, doesn't miss bats, walks a lot of batters and doesn't strike out enough hitters.

You can't spin that in any way but awful.

They are worst staff in the AL and its not close.

Why do you continue to fight this? Every piece of evidence points to you being just as wrong as if you were saying the sky is green.

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So that means we've allowed 6+ runs in 40.9% of our games this year. And we've won 1.6% of those games.

We've allowed 5 or less in 91 games and are 63-28 when doing so.

Contrast that to Tampa Bay, who has six less runs scored than we do. But has only allowed 6+ runs in 36 games. Or 23.5% of its games. They're 21.5 games in front of us in the standings.

From a quick look, most teams have allowed 6+ runs 35-45 times. And, most teams manage to win a few of those. However, we've allowed 8+ runs 36 times.

Flipping this over, the Orioles have scored 6+ 44 times. That's a pretty normal number. We've managed to lose 10 of those games, which is poor to say the least. We've lost games 8-7, 9-6, 9-6, 8-6, 15-10, 7-6 9-8, 8-6, 11-10 and 18-9. By comparison, the Rays have scored 6+ 43 tiimes, and lost only twice.

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Trea, stop spinning this.

Our pitching staff gives up a ton of homers, doesn't miss bats, walks a lot of batters and doesn't strike out enough hitters.

You can't spin that in any way but awful.

They are worst staff in the AL and its not close.

Why do you continue to fight this? Every piece of evidence points to you being just as wrong as if you were saying the sky is green.

Our defensive efficiency is .682, the second worst in the AL only topped by Minnesota who has the 2nd worst ERA in the AL.

The two certainly go hand in hand. Better defense will improve the pitching.

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Our defensive efficiency is .682, the second worst in the AL only topped by Minnesota who has the 2nd worst ERA in the AL.

The two certainly go hand in hand. Better defense will improve the pitching.

Sooooo many posts eviscerating your position and you point to one year of defensive efficiency statistics. Well done.

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Our defensive efficiency is .682, the second worst in the AL only topped by Minnesota who has the 2nd worst ERA in the AL.

The two certainly go hand in hand. Better defense will improve the pitching.

Sooooo many posts eviscerating your position and you point to one year of defensive efficiency statistics. Well done.

I must have missed something. Is someone disputing that we need better defense? We definitely do. So, the challenge is to upgrade (or at least maintain) the offense while improving the defense. Adding Prince Fielder certainly doesn't help the defense, especially if it pushes Reynolds back to 3B or Reimold to LF. So, that is a dilemma we face if we go after Prince.

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I must have missed something. Is someone disputing that we need better defense? We definitely do. So, the challenge is to upgrade (or at least maintain) the offense while improving the defense. Adding Prince Fielder certainly doesn't help the defense, especially if it pushes Reynolds back to 3B or Reimold to LF. So, that is a dilemma we face if we go after Prince.

Yet another reason to avoid him.

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Our defensive efficiency is .682, the second worst in the AL only topped by Minnesota who has the 2nd worst ERA in the AL.

The two certainly go hand in hand. Better defense will improve the pitching.

Are you trying to strengthen your case that we need to acquire Prince "Gold Glove" Fielder to help us out in that area ???

Errors Committed as 1B

2006 NL 11 (4th)

2007 NL 14 (1st)

2008 NL 17 (2nd)

2011 NL 14 (1st)

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fieldpr01.shtml

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I must have missed something. Is someone disputing that we need better defense? We definitely do. So, the challenge is to upgrade (or at least maintain) the offense while improving the defense. Adding Prince Fielder certainly doesn't help the defense, especially if it pushes Reynolds back to 3B or Reimold to LF. So, that is a dilemma we face if we go after Prince.

Fielder is a better defender at 1B than Reynolds, but you add him for his on base ability as well as he does draw a ton of walks.

3B is a dilemma as the candidates out there are not good defenders. ARam continues to decline defensively and Wright's defense has been called into question as well as he's had a horrible defensive year.

I think if you have Reynolds work on his defense this offseason, he can get to the point where he's passable at 3B. He's never been this bad and last offseason he focused on his swing instead of his defense. This offseason you have him reverse the two.

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I think if you have Reynolds work on his defense this offseason, he can get to the point where he's passable at 3B. He's never been this bad and last offseason he focused on his swing instead of his defense. This offseason you have him reverse the two.

Ahhh, that's what we're missing. He needs to work on his defense. Who was it telling him not to work on it. That guy should be fired.

Anyone who thinks that pitching isn't the problem is clueless.

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Pitching is a problem, but not the problem.

You're right. EVERYTHING IS THE PROBLEM.

Since everything is the problem, what sense does it make to spend scarce resources on one player who addresses only one of the two problems?

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You're right. EVERYTHING IS THE PROBLEM.

Since everything is the problem, what sense does it make to spend scarce resources on one player who addresses only one of the two problems?

It's extraordinarily obvious that the Orioles' biggest problem is either their pitching or their defense. Both are horrendous.

The offense is average. Not good nor terrible... but clearly MILES better than the pitching & defense.

Not even debatable.

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