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Could BigBird be possibly lurking in the hopes that Mcphail heads for the Commisioner's chair??? Ready to take on the responsibility of the GM since we don't seem to be moving fast enough for him or all the other GM prospects on the OH:002_ssuprised:

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I thought I had read that the Orioles had reached agreement with a bunch of minor league FA's but were waiting until after the Rule 5 draft to make them official. Since the Rule 5 draft was just last Thursday, maybe we'll hear about a bunch of signings this week.

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Signing Guthrie wasn't important??

You keep mentioning Guthrie, but he was a waiver wire claim.

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I thought I had read that the Orioles had reached agreement with a bunch of minor league FA's but were waiting until after the Rule 5 draft to make them official. Since the Rule 5 draft was just last Thursday, maybe we'll hear about a bunch of signings this week.

This makes sense I've read a few articles about other teams doing this (Brewers and Dodgers). I guess they want to avoid a Josh Phelps repeat.

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The O's signed a good amount of their draft picks this year. Something like 38 out of 50. A higher percentage than most years. Maybe they are backing off on minor league FA to get a gauge on their in house talent. By promoting from within and using the draft picks to fill out the lower levels so they can get more AB's, IP's etc.

Just a thought.

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This makes sense I've read a few articles about other teams doing this (Brewers and Dodgers). I guess they want to avoid a Josh Phelps repeat.

A smart thing to do IMO.

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Bigbird you are a great contributor to this board but I disagree with you on needing more minor league free agents. Please do your homework before you put up a rant like this because I keep a spreadsheet of the whole organization and the only openings I see after moving most not all players up a level is 3B at Norfolk and 1 or 2 possible outfield spots at Norfolk/Bowie at this time. They do not need to sign 25-30 AAAA like last year because Jordan's drafts have been much better in both quality and quantity than Demacio's so they have created a lot more depth throughout the organization. Jordan’s' drafts basically are completely filling rosters from Frederick down and a few more advanced guys like Reimold, Olson, and Davis at AA and AAA to fill in the gaps that the few remaining Demacio guys left in the organization can not fill. So basically we just needed a few guys at Norfolk to fill the big gaps. That is why we re-signed LHP Anderson, LHP Waters, C Santos, OF Mateo, drafted 1B Tim Brown in the rule 5, and signed a ton of relievers for our 40 man roster like Novoa.

So the answer to your question is not that AM is not doing his job but rather that he has assessed the entire organization back in October when he went through the organization from top to bottom and he decided for the first time in a long time we do not need 25-30 AAAA guys like Knott, House because Jordan guys are good enough. If you think I am wrong name any position in the minors at any level that you think we do not have an in-house person except the few I named above and I will give you the most likely candidate to fill that role. If we have a lot of injuries then we can pick up a guy like Redman, Jiminez or Amador after spring training like we did last year. McPhail’s trades if they ever come should add depth not hurt depth since he insists on 3 for 1 trades so depth should improve not get worse.

I understand that AM is the bain of your existence because you like your guy and he may lose his job and I think that sucks because I am sure he works hard and bleeds Orange/Black like the rest of us but your constant attacks of AM are unwarranted and if you ask me he is doing a great job if you just take the time to do your homework.

Trust me I will really miss your inside information and I really appreciate it but threads like this are unfair and easy fodder for people not as dorky as me that keep a spreadsheet of the organization and who do not have time to do the research like I did when I first saw this thread.

I don't know who you are, or how much you really know. But if I imagine that you are legit, that's a stout post right there.

Here's my question to everybody else: I know lots of people here keep up with the MiL guys way more than I do. Do you agree with this post? If you don't, how wrong do you think it is?

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For that matter all MacPhail (and I say hom because I'm not sure who's working with him) has to do is stay up and extra hour, read the info on this board which will give him some clue. It's not hard to walk, chew gum and fart at the samt time.

Your venom is showing...

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Jason Dubois spent all of 2007 in Norfolk batting in the middle of the order, but had things broken differently he could have had 250 at bats in Baltimore.

By things breaking differently, I'll assume you mean Dubois hitting better than 251/303/415 (OPS 718) in 378 ABs at AAA at the age of 28.

It's not monumentally important, but like I said before - a half-billion dollar corporation with its act together would at least assign a kid right out of college or an intern to cover the research on this.

It is a short circuit in logic to assume that just because no signings have been made that no one is doing the research. The director of minor league operations usually handles this, and I doubt he's involved in major league trade discussions.

And let's not forget we just drafted three minor leaguers this week. That stocks minor league rosters, too.

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RShackleford,

The only thing I forgot to put in my write-up is that we have good minor leaguers that will not embarass us at the levels they should start next year and I feel are worth a chance over signing the minor league free agents that are available. I by no means am saying that they will all be all-stars and major leaguers.

Our depth is like night and day compared to the past 15 years. The last time I saw depth like this in the minors was late 80's and early 90's which fueled our why not season in 1989. I do not know how Jordan's guys will do in the upper minors but his guys so far are great and they improve year to year (i.e. Tripp, Henson) something DeMacio's guys rarely did. Demacio was very hit (Markakis) or miss (5 of 6 1999 1st rounders except Roberts). In defense of DeMacio though player development was a mess under Thrift.

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Bigbird you are a great contributor to this board but I disagree with you on needing more minor league free agents. Please do your homework before you put up a rant like this because I keep a spreadsheet of the whole organization and the only openings I see after moving most not all players up a level is 3B at Norfolk and 1 or 2 possible outfield spots at Norfolk/Bowie at this time. They do not need to sign 25-30 AAAA like last year because Jordan's drafts have been much better in both quality and quantity than Demacio's so they have created a lot more depth throughout the organization. Jordan’s' drafts basically are completely filling rosters from Frederick down and a few more advanced guys like Reimold, Olson, and Davis at AA and AAA to fill in the gaps that the few remaining Demacio guys left in the organization can not fill. So basically we just needed a few guys at Norfolk to fill the big gaps. That is why we re-signed LHP Anderson, LHP Waters, C Santos, OF Mateo, drafted 1B Tim Brown in the rule 5, and signed a ton of relievers for our 40 man roster like Novoa.

So the answer to your question is not that AM is not doing his job but rather that he has assessed the entire organization back in October when he went through the organization from top to bottom and he decided for the first time in a long time we do not need 25-30 AAAA guys like Knott, House because Jordan guys are good enough. If you think I am wrong name any position in the minors at any level that you think we do not have an in-house person except the few I named above and I will give you the most likely candidate to fill that role. If we have a lot of injuries then we can pick up a guy like Redman, Jiminez or Amador after spring training like we did last year. McPhail’s trades if they ever come should add depth not hurt depth since he insists on 3 for 1 trades so depth should improve not get worse.

I understand that AM is the bain of your existence because you like your guy and he may lose his job and I think that sucks because I am sure he works hard and bleeds Orange/Black like the rest of us but your constant attacks of AM are unwarranted and if you ask me he is doing a great job if you just take the time to do your homework.

Trust me I will really miss your inside information and I really appreciate it but threads like this are unfair and easy fodder for people not as dorky as me that keep a spreadsheet of the organization and who do not have time to do the research like I did when I first saw this thread.

Why don't you post your spread sheets on here for the benefit of us all so we can see what we have to look forward to when call ups are needed. I'd wager with the exception of maybe Reimold there's not one quality position player on your AAA team (unless Moore is not in Baltimore) that could be called up and be somewhat productive in Baltimore.

Let's see your homework!

Working hard and accomplishing things are two different things.

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I don't know who you are, or how much you really know. But if I imagine that you are legit, that's a stout post right there.

Here's my question to everybody else: I know lots of people here keep up with the MiL guys way more than I do. Do you agree with this post? If you don't, how wrong do you think it is?

You won't know me either, but I keep a similar spreadsheet and he's basically right. With the exception of 3B and C at Norfolk and the need for a couple Utility guys at Norfolk and Bowie, there are names for every other roster spot. One can argue there's not much quality there, but there is quantity. For instance, the first call ups fron AAA would be guys like Majewski and Fio for OF, E. Torres or Luis H. for INF.

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I thought I was the only one insane enough to keep a spreadsheet :)

I'd enjoy comparing formats if anyone would like to exchange 'em.

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