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Trying to keep this on the subject - what we saw today was the example of the Orioles' hitting philosophy winning out, however the 8th inning was an example of how even in a 10 run game they missed an opportunity to score more.

Teams like the Rays and Tigers will shut down that power, and the Orioles will have to figure out to win without it, something they have yet to show they can do as they've lost an overwhelming amount of games where they score less than 4 runs, and considering those teams stand in the way of the Orioles reaching the World Series, it is not trolling to say that this offense will not be able to beat those teams consistently with their current hitting philosophy.

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Trying to keep this on the subject - what we saw today was the example of the Orioles' hitting philosophy winning out, however the 8th inning was an example of how even in a 10 run game they missed an opportunity to score more.

Teams like the Rays and Tigers will shut down that power, and the Orioles will have to figure out to win without it, something they have yet to show they can do as they've lost an overwhelming amount of games where they score less than 4 runs, and considering those teams stand in the way of the Orioles reaching the World Series, it is not trolling to say that this offense will not be able to beat those teams consistently with their current hitting philosophy.

Why don't you blame the pitching coach when they lose games when they score less than 4 runs?

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See DH and Second base are below average - Wieters is a CHASM, a VOID, an ABYSS.

Fixed that.

As for the topic at hand, it's a f'ing baseball team. Sometimes they'll score a lot, other times not so much. It's a marathon of a season, not a sprint. Sometimes they're hot, sometimes they're cold. All in all, there's only one fanbase at the end of the year that is 100% happy with the way things ended up for them.

This team is now headed into the final 45 games of the year for a second year in a row with a legit shot to make the playoffs. That's all you can ask for.

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Don't most teams scoring 4 or less tend to lose more, and teams that score 4 or more tend to win more? Isn't this rather meaningless. As well as most teams tend to fail with RISP more often than not? Aren't the O's doing pretty well in general with RISP as compared to the league.

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Don't most teams scoring 4 or less tend to lose more, and teams that score 4 or more tend to win more? Isn't this rather meaningless. As well as most teams tend to fail with RISP more often than not? Aren't the O's doing pretty well in general with RISP as compared to the league.

Some people would be pissed if we won the World Series in 5 games instead of 4.

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Trying to keep this on the subject - what we saw today was the example of the Orioles' hitting philosophy winning out, however the 8th inning was an example of how even in a 10 run game they missed an opportunity to score more.

Teams like the Rays and Tigers will shut down that power, and the Orioles will have to figure out to win without it, something they have yet to show they can do as they've lost an overwhelming amount of games where they score less than 4 runs, and considering those teams stand in the way of the Orioles reaching the World Series, it is not trolling to say that this offense will not be able to beat those teams consistently with their current hitting philosophy.

We're 9-9 against those teams. We can hold our own.

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Trying to keep this on the subject - what we saw today was the example of the Orioles' hitting philosophy winning out, however the 8th inning was an example of how even in a 10 run game they missed an opportunity to score more.

Teams like the Rays and Tigers will shut down that power, and the Orioles will have to figure out to win without it, something they have yet to show they can do as they've lost an overwhelming amount of games where they score less than 4 runs, and considering those teams stand in the way of the Orioles reaching the World Series, it is not trolling to say that this offense will not be able to beat those teams consistently with their current hitting philosophy.

Record of AL Playoff contenders when scoring 3 runs or less:

Red Sox: 9-36 (20%)

Tigers: 7-32 (17.9%)

Rangers: 12-41 (22.6%)

A's: 13-40 (24.5%)

Rays: 15-34 (30.6%)

Orioles: 11-31 (26.2%)

Indians: 12-39 (23.5%)

Royals: 15-45 (25%)

Yankees: 13-46 (22%)

Totals: 107-344 (23.7%)

They aren't alone in struggling when scoring three runs or less. Only one playoff contender is better in those games, and that's, unsurprisingly, Tampa Bay.

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Record of AL Playoff contenders when scoring 3 runs or less:

Red Sox: 9-36 (20%)

Tigers: 7-32 (17.9%)

Rangers: 12-41 (22.6%)

A's: 13-40 (24.5%)

Rays: 15-34 (30.6%)

Orioles: 11-31 (26.2%)

Indians: 12-39 (23.5%)

Royals: 15-45 (25%)

Yankees: 13-46 (22%)

Totals: 107-344 (23.7%)

They aren't alone in struggling when scoring three runs or less. Only one playoff contender is better in those games, and that's, unsurprisingly, Tampa Bay.

And only the tigers have played less games under this criteria. Fire Pressley.

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Why don't you blame the pitching coach when they lose games when they score less than 4 runs?

The pitching staff does not have the ability to go out there and pitch games where they give up less than 3 runs on a consistent basis. They simply do not have enough talent. However, they don't need to - not if the offense does its job.

This offense on the other hand has the ability to work the count and get better pitches to hit. The Texas series right after the break is a perfect example - however nobody is telling them to do that as that would be an adjustment to what they've been doing.

When the power is there, their philosophy is great. When the power isn't and they are behind or only up by 1 run, it isn't.

Days like today Presley looks like an asset, but we've had more days since the break where his philosophy has seemed to be a detriment.

We'll have to see if we can have more days like today, and then I agree the hitting coach won't matter.

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Record of AL Playoff contenders when scoring 3 runs or less:

Red Sox: 9-36 (20%)

Tigers: 7-32 (17.9%)

Rangers: 12-41 (22.6%)

A's: 13-40 (24.5%)

Rays: 15-34 (30.6%)

Orioles: 11-31 (26.2%)

Indians: 12-39 (23.5%)

Royals: 15-45 (25%)

Yankees: 13-46 (22%)

Totals: 107-344 (23.7%)

They aren't alone in struggling when scoring three runs or less. Only one playoff contender is better in those games, and that's, unsurprisingly, Tampa Bay.

Yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahbutbutbut the Royals fired their hitting coach and got better! How do you explain that, hmmm??????

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The pitching staff does not have the ability to go out there and pitch games where they give up less than 3 runs on a consistent basis. They simply do not have enough talent. However, they don't need to - not if the offense does its job.

This offense on the other hand has the ability to work the count and get better pitches to hit. The Texas series right after the break is a perfect example - however nobody is telling them to do that as that would be an adjustment to what they've been doing.

When the power is there, their philosophy is great. When the power isn't and they are behind or only up by 1 run, it isn't.

Days like today Presley looks like an asset, but we've had more days since the break where his philosophy has seemed to be a detriment.

We'll have to see if we can have more days like today, and then I agree the hitting coach won't matter.

Does the fact that the Tigers are the only team in baseball that has scores 3 runs or fewer less often than the Orioles not resonate?

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Record of AL Playoff contenders when scoring 3 runs or less:

Red Sox: 9-36 (20%)

Tigers: 7-32 (17.9%)

Rangers: 12-41 (22.6%)

A's: 13-40 (24.5%)

Rays: 15-34 (30.6%)

Orioles: 11-31 (26.2%)

Indians: 12-39 (23.5%)

Royals: 15-45 (25%)

Yankees: 13-46 (22%)

Totals: 107-344 (23.7%)

They aren't alone in struggling when scoring three runs or less. Only one playoff contender is better in those games, and that's, unsurprisingly, Tampa Bay.

Interesting, thought the Tigers and Red Sox would be looking better in that regard.

I guess everybody is pretty similar when it comes to that stat surprisingly, though Tampa has that bit of an edge, which could make a huge difference down the stretch considering how tight the race is right now.

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Losses by playoff contenders when scoring five or more runs:

Red Sox - 8

Tigers - 9

Rangers - 3

A's - 6

Rays - 10

Orioles - 14

Indians - 9

Royals - 4

Yankees - 4

This just illustrates how important the offense is when your pitching staff is a bunch of #3's and #4's. The Orioles have to score as much as they can when they can because they don't have the pitching to shutdown opposing teams.

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Some people would be pissed if we won the World Series in 5 games instead of 4.

Some people would be pissed if we got a multi time all-star catcher who his 20 bombs a year and wins gold gloves, instead of the player their mommy said we drafted. Can't satisfy everyone.

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