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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Long List Of Teams Interested In Ervin Santana <a href="http://t.co/6fqi3GzziE">http://t.co/6fqi3GzziE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlb&src=hash">#mlb</a></p>— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="

">February 15, 2014</a></blockquote>

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Forget about him.

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If Santana, or Jimenez were signed to minor league contracts would the O's still lose the pick? You could write a contract so that the player gets his money, and the O's get the player they want and still keep the pick.

No you could not. Bud does not allow your creative thought process. He has the "interest of baseball" power that he exorcises.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Long List Of Teams Interested In Ervin Santana <a href="http://t.co/6fqi3GzziE">http://t.co/6fqi3GzziE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlb&src=hash">#mlb</a></p>? MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="
">February 15, 2014</a></blockquote>

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Forget about him.

Because he is by far best option. Keep the faith.

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No you could not. Bud does not allow your creative thought process. He has the "interest of baseball" power that he exorcises.

And then there's the union. No way they let that happen.

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Bean Stringfellow

Bean Stringfellow, the agent for starter Ervin Santana, rejected an apparent rumor that the Blue Jays had offered his client a three-year, $27MM deal, reports John Lott of the National Post. Stringfellow also dismissed the rumor that he had earlier demanded five years and $112MM for Santana. Though some clubs may hope to wait out the market for prices to fall, Stringfellow says he is not concerned by that possibility. "The calendar doesn't really affect us in that regard," he said. "The teams need the pitching by Opening Day. That's when the bell rings. I think a lot of clubs might think that as [Opening Day] gets closer, the price comes down. I would simply say to that, 'You're not filling your need for pitching, so I don't know why our value is any less when your need is still as great as what it was.'"

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I think even if that worked it would only benefit in the st. I'm guessing every other team would refuse to ever deal with the os again were they to do that.

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Why? Because the O's thought out of the box and they didn't? It would open the door for other teams to do the same thing.

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Why? Because the O's thought out of the box and they didn't? It would open the door for other teams to do the same thing.

It's not "out of the box." It's against the rules. You know. Cheating.

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And then there's the union. No way they let that happen.

Why not? Like I said, the contract could be negotiated so that the player would get his money. Everyone is happy, the O's get their pitcher and keep the pick, the player gets his money, the agent get his cut and the players union gets a new member and more union dues. Only one that wouldn't be happy is Bud Selig, and as far as I'm concerned, he can pound sand.

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Why? Because the O's thought out of the box and they didn't? It would open the door for other teams to do the same thing.

Well I can't find the MLB source for the actual rule, but this appears to be an excerpt.

It would appear that signing a player to a minor league deal in order to avoid giving up the draft pick is explicitly forbidden.

If a Qualified Player signs a Major League contract with a new club after the MLB Rule 4 Draft, or if a Qualified Player signs a minor league contract with a new club and either remains in the minor leagues or is later added to the new club's MLB 40-man roster, the player's new club does NOT forfeit a Rule 4 Draft pick, and the player's former club does NOT receive Rule 4 Draft pick compensation. However, MLB clubs are not permitted to sign a Qualified Player to a minor league contract just to avoid losing a draft pick.

http://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3512

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BREAKING: Ryan Dempster will not pitch for <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RedSox&src=hash">#RedSox</a> in 2014 due to physical reasons and his desire to spend more time with his kids.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="

">February 16, 2014</a></blockquote>

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Another player?

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Thank you. That's what I was looking for. Now I know for sure.

Yeah. I was being lazy. Thanks for the actual verbiage and the discussion.

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Don't be surprised if the Yankees' efforts to land Ervin Santana intensify in the coming weeks. Even after landing Masahiro Tanaka, the Bombers could use one more solid starter to round out their starting five.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/02/cafardo-on-cabrera-dodgers-santana-hardy.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The O's go from landing a starting pitcher like Ervin possibly, to having the Yankees grab him and use him against the O's.

Would not sit well...

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