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TODAY: Dr. James Andrews was also consulted on Tanaka's elbow,

Honestly if I were Tanaka I would tell the Yankees to stick it and just get the surgery done.

Even if he rehabs and gets back I would put even money on him having TJ Surgery in the next year or two anyway.

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Honestly if I were Tanaka I would tell the Yankees to stick it and just get the surgery done.

Even if he rehabs and gets back I would put even money on him having TJ Surgery in the next year or two anyway.

Why rush it? He gets paid either way. If I were him I would definitely try to avoid a surgery that requires a year of rehab.

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I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that spending big money on any pitcher is a waste of time. Grow the arms, buy the bats really looks like a good strategy lately. Of course, grow both would be preferable.

Except we didn't grow Norris, Chen, Gonzalez or Jimenez and we traded for Tilman so he wasn't really grown either. That was a stupid strategy by Macphail and DD has made us winners by dropping it.

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Except we didn't grow Norris, Chen, Gonzalez or Jimenez and we traded for Tilman so he wasn't really grown either. That was a stupid strategy by Macphail and DD has made us winners by dropping it.

OK, while technically we did trade for Tillman, he spent just two years in the Mariners system. It's not like we got him JUST before he was big-league ready. He played a year and a half in the Mariners system and then got a year and a half of exclusively minor league experience with the Os. And even then, he didn't consistently stick in Baltimore until 2012.

So while Tillman wasn't exclusively an Oriole in the minors, it's not fair to say he isn't home grown.

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Except we didn't grow Norris, Chen, Gonzalez or Jimenez and we traded for Tilman so he wasn't really grown either. That was a stupid strategy by Macphail and DD has made us winners by dropping it.

Yup and no.

I think the fact that Dan is holding on to KG, Bundy and Harvey is a pretty clear indicator he at least subscribes partially to that theory.

The difference is that DD is smart enough to know you don't sit there and watch the arms you grow flounder....if they don't work out you look at other options to get arms

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Except we didn't grow Norris, Chen, Gonzalez or Jimenez and we traded for Tilman so he wasn't really grown either. That was a stupid strategy by Macphail and DD has made us winners by dropping it.

Umm Tillman threw roughly 160 innings of baseball in the Seattle org. He spent far longer in our minor league system.

It was not a stupid strategy. You get as much pitching as possible and you run with it.

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Honestly if I were Tanaka I would tell the Yankees to stick it and just get the surgery done.

Even if he rehabs and gets back I would put even money on him having TJ Surgery in the next year or two anyway.

If you were Tanaka you would be the type of person that would apologize to the fans for having your elbow blow out on you.

I don't think he is the type of person, and he certainly doesn't come from a culture, that is likely to tell ownership to stick it.

Add in the fact that three different medical teams have suggested rehab first...

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OK, while technically we did trade for Tillman, he spent just two years in the Mariners system. It's not like we got him JUST before he was big-league ready. He played a year and a half in the Mariners system and then got a year and a half of exclusively minor league experience with the Os. And even then, he didn't consistently stick in Baltimore until 2012.

So while Tillman wasn't exclusively an Oriole in the minors, it's not fair to say he isn't home grown.

And Josh Hader who got us Norris was as well.

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Umm Tillman threw roughly 160 innings of baseball in the Seattle org. He spent far longer in our minor league system.

It was not a stupid strategy. You get as much pitching as possible and you run with it.

If we stilled used that strategy we would be in last place. Macphail was an idiot. You get good players wherever you can. 160. Inning is a lot... How many has Gausman thrown in the minors?

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If we stilled used that strategy we would be in last place. Macphail was an idiot. You get good players wherever you can. 160. Inning is a lot... How many has Gausman thrown in the minors?

Tillman signed out of High School. Gausman signed out of college.

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If you were Tanaka you would be the type of person that would apologize to the fans for having your elbow blow out on you.

I don't think he is the type of person, and he certainly doesn't come from a culture, that is likely to tell ownership to stick it.

Add in the fact that three different medical teams have suggested rehab first...

Well I think pretty much any doctor is going to suggest rehab first instead of just arbitrarily cutting someone open. But history I think tells us that he's going to need TJ surgery in the long run. So the question is should he or the Yankees have him hurry up and do it so he can pitch at some point next season or should he wait and rehab and then most likely have the surgery and miss next season?

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If we stilled used that strategy we would be in last place. Macphail was an idiot. You get good players wherever you can. 160. Inning is a lot... How many has Gausman thrown in the minors?

Tillman, Jones, Hunter, Davis, Hardy, and Buck Showalter all say hi.

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Tillman, Jones, Hunter, Davis, Hardy, and Buck Showalter all say hi.

Well, Andy did prefer Eric Wedge.

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If we stilled used that strategy we would be in last place. Macphail was an idiot. You get good players wherever you can. 160. Inning is a lot... How many has Gausman thrown in the minors?

MacPhail was never an idiot. His failure was that he was merely Andy MacPhail. He needed a double helping of Dan Duquette in his personality as well.

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