Chris Davis tested positive for amphetamines. (25 Game Ban)

[Mondo Trasho]

Where was all this concern when Troy Patton got suspended? And any issues he had with this you could say the same thing about steroids. Some players aren't able to develop a lot of strength without steroids. No one states you have to play baseball. If you can't succeed at without drugs do something else with your life.

If this were Derek Jeter getting suspended no one would be defending him. There are rules and Chris broke this one twice. He could have said I am not going to play baseball anymore and take the drugs to his hearts content and no on would care.

Well, I'm ok with any "PED" use. As with anything steroids, adderall, HGH, etc. have tradeoffs. Costs and benefits.

I've defended Bonds on the issue, and I'd be ok with defending Chris Davis, Troy Patton, and Derek Jeter on it if need be. These professionals are adults and can decide for themselves what's best for their own bodies and performance.

[RichmondVA Orio]

I do not want to get anyone upset. These medications have much written about them and indeed we have testimonials about life enhancing changes after being prescribed them. The percentage of baseball players having prescriptions is SO DRASTICALLY higher than in the general population that their use among players would have to be perceived as performance enhancing and not life affirming. It appears that it is something that players learn about early and in the competitive arena, make use of withing laws and agreements. A tremendously disproportionate percentage.

Not even close to correct.

[tntoriole]

The epidemiology and prevalence of ADHD in adults in the U.S. Is certainly not a settled question as it has only recently been a research focus area unlike the disorder in children. Worldwide studies in children are close to 6 percent, however, again, this tells you very little about adult prevalence in the U.S. and even less about a miniscule sample of 750 individuals. A lay article looking specifically at baseball and ADHD also makes the point that this may not be excessively out of line given the population characteristics of baseball players.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-03/no-baseball-doesnt-have-a-fake-adhd-epidemic

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[RichmondVA Orio]

The sensible thing to do is get the prescription in case you need it, then don't use it unless it necessary.

Not getting a waiver for something that might be needful isn't very smart.

Can't do that but you are correct, that would be the sensible thing to do. The opposite of smart is dumb, so MLB TUE policy must be dumb then.

For reference: http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20140912/dodgers-jp-howell-is-familiar-with-baseballs-rules-for-prescription-drug-use

Edited September 14, 2014 by RichmondVA Orio

[RZNJ]

Apparently he had a TUE in TEX and his performance wasn't so hot. Then the TUE was denied in 2012-13 and he had career years. This year he is not performing as well. It would seem that the Adderall had no relation to enhancing his performance. If anything just the opposite. So is it possible he took it for other reasons relating to his ADHD condition and effecting him in his personal life, and not related to baseball at all?

He was denied using it in 2012-2013 by why do we assume he didn't use it in those years. He knew he would be tested this year and used it. He must have somehow thought he could get away with it. Maybe he did get away with it in 2012-2013.

[El Gordo]

He was denied using it in 2012-2013 by why do we assume he didn't use it in those years. He knew he would be tested this year and used it. He must have somehow thought he could get away with it. Maybe he did get away with it in 2012-2013.

Although your post is virtually unintelligible, I will attempt to respond to what I think you are trying to say even though I usually have you on ignore. The testing is good enough to catch him this year, why think it couldn't catch him last year when he was a poster boy for PED abuse given his numbers? It is much more likely, given the evidence we have, that it did nothing for his performance. Can you demonstrate other wise?

[24fps]

Poll:

Why does Chris Davis beat his wife?

A. Because she deserves it.

B. Because it feels good.

Those of you who went to J-school will understand where I'm going here. Chris Davis took Adderal against MLB rules for reasons he felt sufficiently compelling to warrant the risk. We don't know what those reasons are because nobody in a position to know has told us. Speculation as to why he made such a choice is simply human nature. Voting on which Chris Davis fantasy is more credible ventures into bad taste IMO.

[El Gordo]

Poll:

Why does Chris Davis beat his wife?

A. Because she deserves it.

B. Because it feels good.

Those of you who went to J-school will understand where I'm going here. Chris Davis took Adderal against MLB rules for reasons he felt sufficiently compelling to warrant the risk. We don't know what those reasons are because nobody in a position to know has told us. Speculation as to why he made such a choice is simply human nature. Voting on which Chris Davis fantasy is more credible ventures into bad taste IMO.

Perhaps CD took Adderall to keep from beating his wife?

[RZNJ]

Although your post is virtually unintelligible, I will attempt to respond to what I think you are trying to say even though I usually have you on ignore. The testing is good enough to catch him this year, why think it couldn't catch him last year when he was a poster boy for PED abuse given his numbers? It is much more likely, given the evidence we have, that it did nothing for his performance. Can you demonstrate other wise?

I wasn't arguing that it was the reason for his 2012 season. So you think he didn't use in 2012-2013 but did this year knowing that he would be caught. I don't buy that. I think he thought he could beat the system. Probably because he's beaten if before. Yeah, he got caught once. Doesn't mean he wasn't beating it the rest of the time. What makes no sense is that he would do it knowing that he would be caught.

As for my prior post that you considered unintelligible, one word ("by" instead of "but") was mistyped. So glad you were smart enough to get the overall intent of the post.

You usually have me on ignore but not all of the time? Interesting. I always know that you'll be just what everyone else knows that you are. Board rules prohibit me from using the 7 letter word.

Edited September 14, 2014 by RZNJ

[24fps]

Perhaps CD took Adderall to keep from beating his wife?

Perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt and wait for a fuller understanding based on fact.

[Il BuonO]

Although your post is virtually unintelligible, I will attempt to respond to what I think you are trying to say even though I usually have you on ignore. The testing is good enough to catch him this year,

why think it couldn't catch

him last year when he was a poster boy for PED abuse given his numbers? It is much more likely, given the evidence we have, that it did nothing for his performance. Can you demonstrate other wise?

I did nothing to the structure of the sentence you posted except to bold the phrase you wrote and then separate it. As written, however, it can hardly be called intelligible. And otherwise is one word not two.

For you to call out someone else about the clarity of a post is the height of absurdity.

[El Gordo]

I wasn't arguing that it was the reason for his 2012 season. So you think he didn't use in 2012-2013 but did this year knowing that he would be caught. I don't buy that. I think he thought he could beat the system. Probably because he's beaten if before. Yeah, he got caught once. Doesn't mean he wasn't beating it the rest of the time. What makes no sense is that he would do it knowing that he would be caught.

As for my prior post that you considered unintelligible, one word ("by" instead of "but") was mistyped. So glad you were smart enough to get the overall intent of the post.

You usually have me on ignore but not all of the time? Interesting. I always know that you'll be just what everyone else knows that you are. Board rules prohibit me from using the 7 letter word.

How does one mistype? I screw up typing all the time but no one has ever accused me of mistytyping. :smile11:

[RZNJ]

How does one mistype? I screw up typing all the time but no one has ever accused me of mistytyping. :smile11:

You'll also never get accused of knowing anything about baseball. :laughlol:

[TakebackOPACY]

I think he took it to improve control of his fast ball.

[El Gordo]

Explain to me why this is not a coherent sentence ."The testing is good enough to catch him this year, why think it couldn't catch him last year when he was a poster boy for PED abuse given his numbers?" What's your point?