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Why did Buck give that game away?

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Not only would walking Jeter have been a horrible tactical decision, it would have assured the Orioles a place in baseball infamy.

Well that single did that either way.

This thread is a joke. We likely weren't getting the one seed and Jeter has a 610 OPS. Despise the Yankees, but Jeter isn't ARod - he's by all accounts a good guy, and honestly was a great moment to watch, even as an Orioles fan / Yankees hater. Any of you who can't appreciate that really need to get a grip.

No idea who you people are who enjoyed this but you aren't Orioles fans.

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Yeah, they needed rest for our playoff game NEXT THURSDAY. :rolleyes:

I'm not rolling my eyes at you. I'm rolling my eyes at the debacle I watched tonight. Totally deflating. Hopefully this passes before the ALDS starts. Nothing burns me more than throwing away games, and to throw away a game purposefully against JETER and the YANKEES burns me 100x more.

Does anyone on earth think Girardi would have managed it like Showalter if the roles were reversed?[/QUOTE]

No because Giradri doesn't have the class that Buck Showalter does.

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In that situation, you walk the batter to set up the double play.

Everytime.

Well, except it's not as automatic as you make it out to be....you do consider the matchup*. At least according to Dave Johnson, former MLB pitcher and Orioles analyst.

*meant to write, "matchup to come (post hypothetical walk)"

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I can't blame Buck for not walking Jeter. It was probably the correct strategy in that situation, but Buck is a human being, not a robot.

But I do blame Buck for letting Meek pitch in that situation. Tommy Hunter threw seven pitches last night. Andrew Miller didn't pitch last night. There were other options that wouldn't have jeopardized anyone's health.

The Orioles were trying their hardest to win that game. Adam Jones and Steve Pearce had heroic at bats. They were fighting like hell to win. And Buck puts in Evan Meek?

You want Hunter to pitch in 3 games straight with a clinched division so we can take a long shot chance at getting a top seed? Once again Buck had pitched Brach, O'Day and Hunter in back to back games.

You don't manage a game so a legend-who was a legend and will be no matter what had happened- has to face a top notch pitcher. So I guess down 3 in the 9th Buck should have rushed Miller out to the pen and hurry up and get ready?

Pretty evident to me he didn't want to use Miller tonight. If that game had gone to the 12th or 13th we might have seen a position player pitch,.

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FWIW I wrote a snarky tweet to Roch about Meek and he said 4-5 relievers weren't available tonight.

Of course they weren't. People should have known that before the game started.

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The bottom line is you play to win. When you have a rivalry against a team like the Yankees and it's Derek "R2SPECT" Jeter's final game, you try doubly hard to win. That didn't happen tonight, and I'll be pissed about it for a long time.

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Well that single did that either way.

Not even close. Nobody will care it was against the Orioles, just that it was Jeter magic. The other way around the Orioles are hated on for a generation.

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It seems like a meaningless game now, but if we somehow end up a win behind the Angels at the end of the season...knowing we have the tie-breaker....well....you know.

I cannot stand the Yankess, and their BS mystique, and hearing Bozos like John Kruk say crud like 'It just won't seem right to have the playoffs without the Yankees' like he did during a recent broadcast. Yeah, I won't like seeing this replayed on ESPN ad nauseam for years and years.

Call me old fashioned, but when Buck put Joe Saunders in, I had a feeling the O's were just mailing it in. So when they catch up--we continue to mail it in. I don't like it. Crazy stuff happens in sports, and I hate the way we match-up against the Tigers, I just hate it. Would've loved that #1 seed, or at least our best shot at it.

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Not even close. Nobody will care it was against the Orioles, just that it was Jeter magic. The other way around the Orioles are hated on for a generation.

And I would absolutely bask in the hatred.

Just like, you know, MFY fans do.

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I am fine with Buck not walking Jeter in that situation. You have to be a heartless goon to not pitch to Jeter in his last at bat. That said, I am not a fan of sending Meek out in that situation. Make him at least beat your best pitchers.

I am not a fan of going into the postseason with walkoffs like this.

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The bottom line is you play to win. When you have a rivalry against a team like the Yankees and it's Derek "R2SPECT" Jeter's final game, you try doubly hard to win. That didn't happen tonight, and I'll be pissed about it for a long time.

No you don't. You worry about the big picture. I hate the Yankees with a passion and I am not happy Jeter won the game but you don't let emotion into decisions.

I'll be pissed if we get knocked out of the playoffs not losing this game.

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No you don't. You worry about the big picture. I hate the Yankees with a passion and I am not happy Jeter won the game but you don't let emotion into decisions.

I'll be pissed if we get knocked out of the playoffs not losing this game.

Well, Buck had better win a lot of playoff games then. He hasn't even won an ALDS yet. You probably don't remember judging by your posts, but we lost to the YANKEES in the ALDS in 2012.

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