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Why did Buck give that game away?

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Yep. You probably try to get 2-3 innings from Meek. After that, it depends on the condition of the other guys Buck didn't want to use.
in that case you're playing with fire with Meek and are basically forfeiting the game in extras to stick to the plan. We were just out of our misery sooner? It sure seems a waste of a 9th inning rally.

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Ok. You would've used Miller and walked Jeter. You know Miller's physical status better than Buck. You really think he just wanted to gift wrap the game for Jeter and that Miller was a full go?

I would have also been fine with Britton if Miller's health is actually in question. And before you say it, the save rule continues to be stupid, as is hamstringing your own bullpen because you don't want to use Britton in a non-save situation.

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Guys, they set Jeter up with a couple easy pitches and Hardy threw a ball away to let him on base.

It's baseball, they take care of their heroes and give them gifts like tonight for moments occasions. You may remember Cal's HRs on the night he tied and then surpassed Gehrig or his final all-star game.

They did similar things for Chipper Jones last year.

give Buck a break. He likes our chances whether we get home field in the playoffs or no.

Just don't give Yankees fans the satisfaction of acting like Jeter was the hero. We gave it to him, let him have it. He was batting like .100 against us prior to tonight in the past 10 games or so.

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It's Derek Jeter. HOFer. Having a bad year, but still...Derek Jeter. You have multiple, good lefties in your bullpen, a runner in scoring position, and an open base with (.233 hitting) Brian McCann to follow. Jeter's slow, McCann's slower. Do you really, truly believe that Jeter wouldn't have been walked if this hadn't been his last year?

The same Brian McCann that's hitting .292 with 8 hrs and a .892 ops against lefties? Cause if Buck would have walked Jeter and McCann gets the game winner I'm sure you would be blowing a gasket over that decision as well.

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Shocking...we wouldn't be complaining in a thread largely fueled by an O's loss (which, in turn, was fueled by Buck's terrible decision making) because the O's didn't lose despite the poor decision making. Earth shattering, really.

What we would have said is "we were fortunate," because, regardless of the outcome, letting Meek pitch the entire inning, particularly with a RISP, was a mistake.

You are obviously an expert. It's a shame that Buck hasn't burnt out the bullpen all year, had anyone go down, has the team in a position to rest players before the playoffs. Yep, he's really mismanaged the bullpen and the whole team. :rolleyes:

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But trash talking our teams greatest player ever in comparison to a Yankee is? Sorry - but that's embarassing. And to be a moderator...

Yeah, because vulgar language is the way to win an argument? Go back and familiarize yourself with the rules on language and questioning the moderation.

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The same Brian McCann that's hitting .292 with 8 hrs and a .892 ops against lefties? Cause if Buck would have walked Jeter and McCann gets the game winner I'm sure you would be blowing a gasket over that decision as well.

I was wondering when someone would bring that up. And yes, I'll take the GOOD lefty against the guy who's hit substantially worse over his career against lefties (versus approximately 130 ABs this season) over the really, really BAD righty against virtually any version of Derek Jeter.

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Lots of panties in a wad over nothing. They won a game, we won the division and ended their season. Who cares if Jeter got a hit off of a AAAA pitcher?

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in that case you're playing with fire with Meek and are basically forfeiting the game in extras to stick to the plan. We were just out of our misery sooner? It sure seems a waste of a 9th inning rally.

Buck is thinking of winning the war, not the battle.

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You are obviously an expert. It's a shame that Buck hasn't burnt out the bullpen all year, had anyone go down, has the team in a position to rest players before the playoffs. Yep, he's really mismanaged the bullpen and the whole team. :rolleyes:

I agree. The bullpen hasn't been overworked, especially in the second half of the season during which the starters have gone longer into games.

So why did Meek absolutely, positively have to pitch tonight, again?

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I was wondering when someone would bring that up. And yes, I'll take the GOOD lefty against the guy who's hit substantially worse over his career against lefties (versus approximately 130 ABs this season) over the really, really BAD righty against virtually any version of Derek Jeter.

Didn't McCann just hit a homer off of Miller? Just saying.

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I would have also been fine with Britton if Miller's health is actually in question. And before you say it, the save rule continues to be stupid, as is hamstringing your own bullpen because you don't want to use Britton in a non-save situation.

You don't use your closer on the road in the 9th when it isn't a must win.

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But trash talking our teams greatest player ever in comparison to a Yankee is? Sorry - but that's embarassing. And to be a moderator...

Wasn't our teams greatest player to me. He got beat up pretty badly on here after the Beltre/Brooks thing. Not sure his image has ever recovered for a lot of people on here over that.

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