Jump to content
isestrex

Would you have matched SEA offer to keep Cruz an Oriole?

Would you have matched 4y/$57M for Cruz?  

160 members have voted

This poll is closed to new votes
  1. 1. Would you have matched 4y/$57M for Cruz?

    • Yes, that's reasonable
      42
    • No, let the Mariners have him.
      118


Recommended Posts

18 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

Can he get to 500 HRs?

 If he hits 30 a year for three more years maybe. But that would mean playing when you’re 44 years old.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Philip said:

That means a whole lot. Barry Bonds is a jerk, and I wouldn’t vote for him if you put a gun to my head. But Cruz is by all accounts a great guy, plus he admitted his use and put it behind him.

So I do expect to get some votes, but I don’t think he’ll get in Unless he has a really outstanding next three years.

I don't understand what that has to do with what Bonds did between the lines. Who cares that he wasn't liked by the media.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm getting disillusioned by this board. Beating dead horse after dead horse after dead horse. I need a f-ing break. See y'all maybe when an actual Game Thread is active.

 

Probably post a song every now and again, because... MUSIC! IMPORTANT stuff.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, scOtt said:

REALLY???? You bumped the Nelson f-ing Cruz thread????

:ohlord:

I would normally agree.

Not like we have real baseball to discuss.

Amazing how easy it is to play monday morning quarterback and said, well, we should have done. :)

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He's the type of guy that the right veteran's committee would put in.  (If he goes strong for a few more years).

Definition: played MLB for parts of 10+ seasons, and a creative writer can come up with some kind of story about them that sounds superficially good. 

Jack Morris got in because he was arguably the best starting pitcher between Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens (yes, they overlapped, shhh).  Jim Rice got in because he was the most feared hitter in baseball among Fenway sportswriters.  Harold Baines got in because everyone (except some other people) with 2866 hits is in.

So, sure, 40 wins and leading the majors in homers in the 2010s could get him a plaque.  I don't even think you need the "goes strong for a few more years" qualifier. He's already better than Baines, and nobody cares about PEDs if you're nice.  Only bitter, vindictive PEDs count against you.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Definition: played MLB for parts of 10+ seasons, and a creative writer can come up with some kind of story about them that sounds superficially good. 

Jack Morris got in because he was arguably the best starting pitcher between Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens (yes, they overlapped, shhh).  Jim Rice got in because he was the most feared hitter in baseball among Fenway sportswriters.  Harold Baines got in because everyone (except some other people) with 2866 hits is in.

So, sure, 40 wins and leading the majors in homers in the 2010s could get him a plaque.  I don't even think you need the "goes strong for a few more years" qualifier. He's already better than Baines, and nobody cares about PEDs if you're nice.  Only bitter, vindictive PEDs count against you.

It helped Morris, that he had a reputation for a lethal arm in post season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

It helped Morris, that he had a reputation for a lethal arm in post season.

Sure.  So did Orel Hershiser and 50 other guys.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Riggodrill44 said:

I don't understand what that has to do with what Bonds did between the lines. Who cares that he wasn't liked by the media.

It’s human nature. Some people want the whole package and some people don’t care. If someone is a repellent jerk they will lose some votes. I think that’s probably what has kept Schilling out so far.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

2 minutes ago, Philip said:

It’s human nature. Some people want the whole package and some people don’t care. If someone is a repellent jerk they will lose some votes. I think that’s probably what has kept Schilling out so far.

Which is why I dislike the HOF process.

Sport Writers, some of which are incredible arses, having the power to keep people in or out.

Some of which know less about baseball than OH trolls.

Sometimes voting no, just so it would not be 100%

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

It helped Morris, that he had a reputation for a lethal arm in post season.

He sure did! 3.80 ERA in the postseason, compared to 3.90 in the regular season. Clutch!

The Blue Jays were lucky to win the WS the year after his legendary Twins performance, with Morris having a 6.57 ERA in the ALCS and 8.44 in the WS.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, makoman said:

He sure did! 3.80 ERA in the postseason, compared to 3.90 in the regular season. Clutch!

The Blue Jays were lucky to win the WS the year after his legendary Twins performance, with Morris having a 6.57 ERA in the ALCS and 8.44 in the WS.

Yea, that reputation was mostly because of one start.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
50 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

It helped Morris, that he had a reputation for a lethal arm in post season.

Morris was very good for about 10-12 years. It helped that he won WS with the Tigers, Twins and Blue Jays. One could argue that he was a difference maker with all of them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
25 minutes ago, makoman said:

He sure did! 3.80 ERA in the postseason, compared to 3.90 in the regular season. Clutch!

The Blue Jays were lucky to win the WS the year after his legendary Twins performance, with Morris having a 6.57 ERA in the ALCS and 8.44 in the WS.

I said he has a reputation.

He also got the $$$$, based on his rep and success in the post season.

Quote

Morris was the highest-paid pitcher in the American League on at least four occasions: 1987, 1988, 1991, and 1993.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


Orioles Information


Orioles News and Information

Daily Organizational Boxscores
News

Tony's Takes

Orioles Roster Resource

Orioles Prospect Information

2018 End of Season Top 30 Prospects List

Prospect Scouting Reports

Statistics

2019 Orioles Stats

2019 Orioles Minor League Stats

Baseball Savant Stats






×
×
  • Create New...