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I dont' know who Jeff Hoffman is but he was drafted 9th in the draft last year is 22 and just had Tommy John surgery? Seems like we could do better that. We are talking about someone who could never pitch in the major leagues potentially.

Give me prospects that are sure things and a year or less away from playing in the bigs.

I believe he was a projected top 5 pick, potentially even #1 overall before his injury.

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He isn't a former top prospect who had a recent setback of Tommy John surgery. He was drafted 9th overall KNOWING THAT HE WOULD NEED TOMMY JOHN surgery.

Should be a fun physical.

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I'd love for Brady Anderson to be the new GM, but I'm not sure if he's experienced enough to be a GM yet. How about we have co-GMs like we did several years ago? Make Brady Anderson and Andy MacPhail co-GMs. Then MacPhail can leave after a few years and Andserson can become the lone GM.

Because the dual-GM worked so well before? I don't think so. Brady majored in Ecnomics at a top 50 university so I don't doubt he has the smarts for the job. But I really know nothing about his leadership skills.

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Okay-but still, it is a risky pick. My point is the same. One player (that is high risk) is all it took you from going to "Dan is our man for life" to "see you later Dan"?

All prospects are risky. Hoffman has a higher upside than all but a handful of prospects in the game. I prefer that to a guy like Pompey who will probably have a decent MLB career but doesn't have the regular All-star type of upside.

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Amen. So, everyone that said this was a non-issue and DD was devoted and dedicated to Baltimore are now ready to give up for a former top prospect with Tommy John? That's all it took to get them to the other side? That isn't a coup, that seems great for a guy you were going to let go anyways, but not for someone you seriously didn't want to lose.

Hoffman is not a former top prospect. He is a top prospect. He is rated as Toronto's #4 ranked prospect by BA. MLB has him also as Toronto's #4 (90th overall in MLB). His TJ surgery preceded the draft, in which he was Toronto's first round pick (9th overall).

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He isn't a former top prospect who had a recent setback of Tommy John surgery. He was drafted 9th overall KNOWING THAT HE WOULD NEED TOMMY JOHN surgery.

By a team that hasn't made the playoffs in 22 years by a GM who is about to get sh*t-canned. Seems still very risky choice.

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Because the dual-GM worked so well before? I don't think so. Brady majored in Ecnomics at a top 50 university so I don't doubt he has the smarts for the job. But I really know nothing about his leadership skills.

Wasn't Brady the guy that worked with Reimold all offseason and all but guaranteed his success a couple years back?

I dunno man. I would rather have Buck as GM and let him pick a manager OR a proven GM.

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Amen. So, everyone that said this was a non-issue and DD was devoted and dedicated to Baltimore are now ready to give up for a former top prospect with Tommy John? That's all it took to get them to the other side? That isn't a coup, that seems great for a guy you were going to let go anyways, but not for someone you seriously didn't want to lose.

Just as a point of clarification, Hoffman is a top prospect, regardless of the TJ surgery. He is very highly thought of and has drawn several comparisons to Verlander. He was drafted ninth after having the surgery. If he didn't have the surgery, he may have gone #1. They certainly were not going to let him go any time soon; he is near the top of their prospect list, despite not having throw a pitch in their organization.

It's similar to Lucas Giolito of the Nats. He could have gone first in that draft prior to having TJ surgery. He then went 16th, rehabbed and is now may be the best RHP prospect in baseball. Hoffman is not just a throwaway guy.

Edit: Sorry, apparently a lot of guys beat me to the punch.

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By a team that hasn't made the playoffs in 22 years by a GM who is about to get sh*t-canned. Seems still very risky choice.

Their GM is not about to lose his job.

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All prospects are risky. Hoffman has a higher upside than all but a handful of prospects in the game. I prefer that to a guy like Pompey who will probably have a decent MLB career but doesn't have the regular All-star type of upside.

Pompey put up some great numbers for his age in the minors last season. I don't know anything about him either but I think I would take the more likely sure thing over an injured pitching prospect who hasn't pitched a day in the minors. Top rated pitching prospects fail all the time.

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All prospects are risky. Hoffman has a higher upside than all but a handful of prospects in the game. I prefer that to a guy like Pompey who will probably have a decent MLB career but doesn't have the regular All-star type of upside.

Get a couple of guys, that is my take. One of them that can help us now perhaps. That is what my price tag would be. Or a draft pick this year (we can trade those now, correct?).

I am more concerned who runs this ship.

The ideal scenario is DD stays and WANTS to stay. But clearly he doesn't. You wonder if those rumors of him getting push back on resigning Cruz were true?

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By a team that hasn't made the playoffs in 22 years by a GM who is about to get sh*t-canned. Seems still very risky choice.

What does this have to do about independent reports of a prospects status?

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O's playing hardball, and I have to say I'm a fan.

Nice. Sometimes it's good to have PA as the owner.

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