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Why the "hey we were .500 last year at this point" doesnt work this year...

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For all the money Boston spent this offseason, their pitching looks like a freaking disaster. I don't see the potential to improve that our guys have. Looking around our division , I see no reason we shouldn't be in it.

Wait until they call Eduardo Rodriguez up! :eek:

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You guys keep on whining about Cruz and Miller. Heck, I said we would miss Cruz in the middle of our lineup. Still, things don't look bad because we aren't hitting or losing games late. Of course, we'd be better with Cruz and Miller. Any fool knows that. So why even say it?

The team looks terrible right now because the starting pitching has been abysmal. Let me repeat that.

THE STARTING PITCHING HAS BEEN ABYSMAL!

All this other whining about this or that just misses the main point.

Starters have not been abysmal except Norris (prior to today) and Tillman. Chen, Jimenez and Gonzalaez have been better than expected, two of them with sub 3 ERAs.

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Let's look at the other teams that "did something". I know it is early, but people are making judgments about the O's.

Now the Jays pitching is getting exposed. They are 9-10, tied with us. Still could be a decent case for "doing something" since Donaldson has been good.

The Nationals signed Scherzer. They are 7-12, tired for last place.

The Mariners signed Cruz, who has been a beast. They are 7-10, a game out of last place.

San Diego made the biggest moves. They are 11-9.

Meanwhile, who is doing really well this year? The Mets. Their big acquisition was Cuddyer, who is hitting .250 with 1 HR. Otherwise they stayed put with their defense and core of young pitchers plus Bartolo.

The Tigers. We bounced them in the first round last year, but they pretty much stayed put. Brought in Price at the end of last year but lost Scherzer, Porcello, Smyly, and Austin Jackson. They are 13-6.

The Royals replaced Butler and Aoki with Rios and Kendrys. Brought in Edinson Volquez. Marginal improvement if any. 13-6.

The Cardinals. Made a big acquisition of Heyward but cost them a young MLB level arm. Similar to the Jays in terms of "doing something". They are off to a fantastic start, but Heyward is hitting .214, whereas Miller is 3-0, 2.05 ERA for the Braves. Arguably the Cards are the best case for "doing something" but the big move they made has been a net loss if anything.

I'm not seeing much of a pattern here. If anything, the "do something" teams are on the whole doing worse than the "I like our guys" teams.

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Let's look at the other teams that "did something". I know it is early, but people are making judgments about the O's.

Now the Jays pitching is getting exposed. They are 9-10, tied with us. Still could be a decent case for "doing something" since Donaldson has been good.

The Nationals signed Scherzer. They are 7-12, tired for last place.

The Mariners signed Cruz, who has been a beast. They are 7-10, a game out of last place.

San Diego made the biggest moves. They are 11-9.

Meanwhile, who is doing really well this year? The Mets. Their big acquisition was Cuddyer, who is hitting .250 with 1 HR. Otherwise they stayed put with their defense and core of young pitchers plus Bartolo.

The Tigers. We bounced them in the first round last year, but they pretty much stayed put. Brought in Price at the end of last year but lost Scherzer, Porcello, Smyly, and Austin Jackson. They are 13-6.

The Royals replaced Butler and Aoki with Rios and Kendrys. Brought in Edinson Volquez. Marginal improvement if any. 13-6.

The Cardinals. Made a big acquisition of Heyward but cost them a young MLB level arm. Similar to the Jays in terms of "doing something". They are off to a fantastic start, but Heyward is hitting .214, whereas Miller is 3-0, 2.05 ERA for the Braves. Arguably the Cards are the best case for "doing something" but the big move they made has been a net loss if anything.

I'm not seeing much of a pattern here. If anything, the "do something" teams are on the whole doing worse than the "I like our guys" teams.

Good list. Though I would just preface the Cardinals making the trade for Heyward because of the death of OT. That really put them in a bind for the OF.

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Also forgot the Cubs. Brought in the #2 pitcher on the market, who has been an Ubaldo-esque disaster. They are 10-7 in second place, mostly on the strength of their existing core plus recently promoted prospects.

The Red Sox brought in Hanley, Panda, and Porcello (but lost Cespedes). They have improved for sure, but pitching is still a big issue. They are 10-9, we have beaten them 4 of 6 and put up 18 runs on them today. So, similar to San Diego, a decent case on the side of "do something".

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