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Harvey has Setback - Elbow Tightness, MRI next

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After being shut down last year, then getting a huge amount of rest early this year because of a broken leg, and now after pitching a few innings you feel tightness... Sounds like a case to me where he needs a second opinion.

I hope that he doesn't need surgery and that he pitches well this year and for years to come, it's just not looking good right now.

Harvey did pitch all spring training without reporting any problems, and looked good. So it's not like this is necessarily a continuation of his problem from last year. I'm nervous about this but I don't think it's obvious that the O's are just delaying an inevitable surgery.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="enwitter"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Buck said Harvey's MRI showed no damage that needs surgery. Expects him to get a second opinion.</p>— Dan Connolly (@danconnollysun) <a href="
">May 14, 2015</a></blockquote>

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Unfortunately, this just delays the inevitable. Hopefully not, but history of these kinds of things are not on the Orioles/Harvey side.

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Harvey did pitch all spring training without reporting any problems, and looked good. So it's not like this is necessarily a continuation of his problem from last year. I'm nervous about this but I don't think it's obvious that the O's are just delaying an inevitable surgery.

Right forearm tightness. Right elbow tightness. There's like a 1% chance that they are not related. It was said he didn't need surgery but he missed the last month or two of last season. Now he's going to sit out for an extended period again. Bet big on the surgery.

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Right forearm tightness. Right elbow tightness. There's like a 1% chance that they are not related. It was said he didn't need surgery but he missed the last month or two of last season. Now he's going to sit out for an extended period again. Bet big on the surgery.

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2015/05/showalter-says-harvey-should-be-able-to-avoid-surgery.html

Buck is saying all the right things, and while on the surface, they make sense.

But, you have valid points too.

I wasn't too worried last year, shut down, lets not take any chances, etc. Seamed like a normal and safe thing to do.

Now this.

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I got curious and tried to find if there were any diagnostic warnings like "tightness" that foreshadowed a pending ligament catastrophe. I didn't have much luck, but I did come across this study that has some up to date data on the prevalence of Tommy John surgery in MLB.

https://ajs.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/04/28/0363546515580792.abstract

(The lead author is Stan Conte, head trainer for the Dodgers)

According to their survey, 25% of major league pitchers and 15% of minor league pitchers have had the surgery.

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Unfortunately for the young man, his career is now interrupted, it is scary for him and his family, no doubt, and, it is just a question for how long and what comes next. I remember Jim Palmer was in sore elbow nightmare for a full two years after his 1966 rookie season and eventually of course made it all the way back to the top after having arm surgery. Hopefully this will be the case for all of our ailing pitching prospects.

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Unfortunately for the young man, his career is now interrupted, it is scary for him and his family, no doubt, and, it is just a question for how long and what comes next. I remember Jim Palmer was in sore elbow nightmare for a full two years after his 1966 rookie season and eventually of course made it all the way back to the top after having arm surgery. Hopefully this will be the case for all of our ailing pitching prospects.
Thanks for this take.

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This, the Os statements about Harvey, and even the posts here on the OH are all nearly identical to those regarding every pitcher who's ever had elbow tightness.

Fixed that for you.

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The "growing the arms" strategy has certainly had it's share of bumps and potholes in the road. This was expected. Did anyone really buy the company line?

Our "acquired arms" strategy has had some bumps too - eg Tsuyoshi Wada (who's now currently finishing a rehab stint with the Cubs w flying colors)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hunter Harvey received a PRP injection today after being examined by Dr James Andrews. Shut down for 6 weeks. So rest for now <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/orioles?src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="

">May 18, 2015</a></blockquote>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hunter Harvey received a PRP injection today after being examined by Dr James Andrews. Shut down for 6 weeks. So rest for now <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/orioles?src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="
">May 18, 2015</a></blockquote>

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What a shocking development.

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I'm trying to convince myself he won't get operated on in July.

Well it worked for Zach Britton. And not for Bundy.

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