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Weams posted this in the Fanfest thread, but I think it deserves its own thread. It is important.

Dan said that Davis is going to be tough but they are trying. He also said the money they have offered him would be available to be spent on others over the next 8 years. Not all on one player. And probably not all this year.

Spreading out the increase in salaries that the Davis signing represents over 8 years is not allocating those funds. I think we would all expect payrolls to rise that much in 8 years just on normal inflation alone.

I have had a very positive outlook all off-season, and have liked what the team was doing... until now. This is irritating. This basically says that, no we aren't getting any of the Davis money allocated towards other players if Chris doesn't sign, only saying in a way that tries to sound like a yes. Who are they kidding?

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I'm sorry, but DD's comment here is so disheartening, it has basically turned my view of the off-season and the Orioles 2016 outlook 180 degrees.

Am I reading too much into this?

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During the 2008-2009 off season, the Orioles apparently went big after mark Teixeira. And what was the big bat they eventually signed that season? Ty Wigginton. I expect something similar.

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No, you're not. It's disheartening...very. I was starting to get the feeling it was Davis or bust. Doesn't seem like PA is interested at all in improving the on-field product. Crush is a fan favorite. Keeping him keeps tickets sales somewhat in check. Very disappointed but not surprised. So basically, the Orioles have $150 million to spend over an 8 year span and they expect fans to just sit back and smile? Frankly, just signing Davis doesn't do that. And you can pretty much kiss Manny goodbye if this is true.

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No, you're not. It's disheartening...very. I was starting to get the feeling it was Davis or bust. Doesn't seem like PA is interested at all in improving the on-field product. Crush is a fan favorite. Keeping him keeps tickets sales somewhat in check. Very disappointed but not surprised. So basically, the Orioles have $150 million to spend over an 8 year span and they expect fans to just sit back and smile? Frankly, just signing Davis doesn't do that. And you can pretty much kiss Manny goodbye if this is true.

No, actually the way I read it is that the Orioles will be spreading the $22 million annual salary increase we would have had with a Davis signing over 8 years. If we were actually spreading an additional $150 million over 8 years, I wouldn't be upset, since that is what the Davis signing would do. It looks like he is talking about a $3 million annual increase in salaries to me.

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During the 2008-2009 off season' date=' the Orioles apparently went big after mark Teixeira. And what was the big bat they eventually signed that season? Ty Wigginton. I expect something similar.[/quote']

Hey now, he was an All-Star, he got his game on.

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They wouldn't be talking to Upton if there was no chance...so I hope you're wrong.

Hey, I hope that I am reading it wrong, too, but I can't get around the words that he said.

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No, actually the way I read it is that the Orioles will be spreading the $22 million annual salary increase we would have had with a Davis signing over 8 years. If we were actually spreading an additional $150 million over 8 years, I wouldn't be upset, since that is what the Davis signing would do. It looks like he is talking about a $3 million annual increase in salaries to me.

That's what I meant. Davis $150m over 8 years. Roughly a little under $20m a year in added payroll. So just guessing, the Orioles figure to be in the $110m range for yearly salaries. That's a joke and no way can fans expect them to contend year in and year out with tha. Sure, we may catch lighting in a bottle now and then.

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They wouldn't be talking to Upton if there was no chance...so I hope you're wrong.

Or that their contract offer to Upton will be much less than Davis

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It looks to me like an average of about 19 M per year. But more could be spent some years and less others. 8 years is a long time and well beyond DD's tenure. PA's for that matter. Doesn't preclude 30 M spent this year. Just no promises made.

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Or that their contract offer to Upton will be much less than Davis

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It should be less. 6/130 IMO. BTW the O's payroll is currently more than 110 M.

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It should be less. 6/130 IMO. BTW the O's payroll is currently more than 110 M.

And the first year of a long term deal could be as little as $5M, as it is for O'Day.

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