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I would have to think both sides are feeling some pressure to get this done. First, I would imagine every player still on the board wants to know where they are playing as we are quickly approaching the spring training report dates across the league. At some point, I would think a player would tell his agent to get the best deal done now and turn the page to ST.

Secondly, with the White Sox in play for Fowler, I would think the O's would want to push Gallardo over the finish line and then quickly wrap up Fowler. If I'm Fowler and the O's are still dragging their feet, it would seem pretty easy to remain in Chicago (CHC to CWS), and get focused on the season.

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I would have to think both sides are feeling some pressure to get this done. First, I would imagine every player still on the board wants to know where they are playing as we are quickly approaching the spring training report dates across the league. At some point, I would think a player would tell his agent to get the best deal done now and turn the page to ST.

Secondly, with the White Sox in play for Fowler, I would think the O's would want to push Gallardo over the finish line and then quickly wrap up Fowler. If I'm Fowler and the O's are still dragging their feet, it would seem pretty easy to remain in Chicago (CHC to CWS), and get focused on the season.

I doubt the Cubs are offering more than a year. I doubt the CWS are either. They should be after Desmond.

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Again....I don't understand your jabs Tony. As a mod here, I feel it reflects poorly on the site. I asked you two or three days if it was a personal thing.

I'm a poster, first. As such, I'm allowed to have opinions that do not represent the views of the OH. We're done here.

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Some people are just inherently rude. Nothing we can do about it.
Again with the rudeness.

Irony, considering the source.

Feel free to PM me. That invitation goes to everyone.

I'm removing myself from this discussion.

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Someone may have pointed this out earlier in the thread, but wasn't flash to bang on the O'Day contract like a week, too? I seem to recall Roch saying over and over each day that it'll get done, just need to cross T's and dot I's. Shouldn't surprise anyone that this is taking a while.

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Someone may have pointed this out earlier in the thread, but wasn't flash to bang on the O'Day contract like a week, too? I seem to recall Roch saying over and over each day that it'll get done, just need to cross T's and dot I's. Shouldn't surprise anyone that this is taking a while.

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Believe me, there is no surprise here. :thumbsup1:

I'm going to go bang my head on the wall for a bit. brb

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You won't criticize a moderator here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on things. Lots goes on behind the scenes. Don't ruin things for yourself.
Which is he, mod or poster? See a conflict of interest there?

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I think they are going "all-in" for the owner, in my opinion.

Not all in, otherwise Gallardo wouldn't be the biggest FA starting pitcher we acquired. But with any luck Gallardo will replace Chen's production

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You won't criticize a moderator here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on things. Lots goes on behind the scenes. Don't ruin things for yourself.

Don't mind it. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. All is good.

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Not all in, otherwise Gallardo wouldn't be the biggest FA starting pitcher we acquired. But with any luck Gallardo will replace Chen's production

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Yeah, "all-in" to me would be grabbing a Heyward and a Greinke (not that we could have or should have). Still, with Gallardo, Fowler, and the rest of the moves we should be fun and competitive this year.

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Yeah, "all-in" to me would be grabbing a Heyward and a Greinke (not that we could have or should have). Still, with Gallardo, Fowler, and the rest of the moves we should be fun and competitive this year.

MW accepting the QO really messed the plan up it looks like in retrospect. DD was going to get comp picks for MW and Chen. Plus our regular pick. So not only did that take up 15 million in salary for this year but we also didn't get the comp pick. The moves we have made so far indicate that we're going for it this year. We paid Davis. O'day got a longer deal than Miller got the year before, when supposedly we couldn't afford to pay a reliever that much money. But looking back on it I don't see who we would have went after more. Cespedes, we tried, he wanted to stay in NY. Zimmerman, he took a discount to pitch in the midwest, he doesn't take that discount to pitch here.

Fowler and Gallardo still fit the plan. I know we all hate how long it's taking but time is our biggest negotiating leverage move. ST is about to start. These guys are either going to sign the deals that we want or we're going to go to other options. For the pitchers that's probably in house options. If we don't get Fowler we'll look at Alvarez and play Trumbo in RF. These FA's know that we have to give up draft picks to sign them. That's why they are still unsigned. Just because they are still out there doesn't mean we should cave and basically offer them deals that they would have gotten in November. Time is on our side here.

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MW accepting the QO really messed the plan up it looks like in retrospect. DD was going to get comp picks for MW and Chen. Plus our regular pick. So not only did that take up 15 million in salary for this year but we also didn't get the comp pick. The moves we have made so far indicate that we're going for it this year. We paid Davis. O'day got a longer deal than Miller got the year before, when supposedly we couldn't afford to pay a reliever that much money. But looking back on it I don't see who we would have went after more. Cespedes, we tried, he wanted to stay in NY. Zimmerman, he took a discount to pitch in the midwest, he doesn't take that discount to pitch here.

Fowler and Gallardo still fit the plan. I know we all hate how long it's taking but time is our biggest negotiating leverage move. ST is about to start. These guys are either going to sign the deals that we want or we're going to go to other options. For the pitchers that's probably in house options. If we don't get Fowler we'll look at Alvarez and play Trumbo in RF. These FA's know that we have to give up draft picks to sign them. That's why they are still unsigned. Just because they are still out there doesn't mean we should cave and basically offer them deals that they would have gotten in November. Time is on our side here.

I love how long it is taking. The longer it goes the more chance it doesn't happen.

I do have to admire the mental gymnastics you used to blame this on Wieters.

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Not all in, otherwise Gallardo wouldn't be the biggest FA starting pitcher we acquired. But with any luck Gallardo will replace Chen's production
Yeah, "all-in" to me would be grabbing a Heyward and a Greinke (not that we could have or should have). Still, with Gallardo, Fowler, and the rest of the moves we should be fun and competitive this year.

Thsee statements are ridiculous! The O's could never afford the Greinkes and Heywards and the likes. The payroll is 30 or 40 million more than last year's. More if we get Gallardo and Fowler. If you don't consider that all in then I don't know what to say to you.

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Thsee statements are ridiculous! The O's could never afford the Greinkes and Heywards and the likes. The payroll is 30 or 40 million more than last year's. More if we get Gallardo and Fowler. If you don't consider that all in then I don't know what to say to you.

If you can afford Davis you can afford Heyward instead of Davis.

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If you can afford Davis you can afford Heyward instead of Davis.

It's amusing to see people continuously question the rationality of this off season when everyone should know it was being driven by an irrational owner.

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