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Can a Qualifying Offer be given out two years in a row? Example obviously Matt Wieters.

Sorry if this has been answered buried in multiple threads. Talking to a buddy at work.

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Short answer - yes.

Though the CBA expires soon, so we may see some changes to the process.

I asked this in another thread, and didnt see an answer.

What happen to the rule, if a player turns down a QO, he couldnt resign with that same team until early june.

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I asked this in another thread, and didnt see an answer.

What happen to the rule, if a player turns down a QO, he couldnt resign with that same team until early june.

Old CBA. Changes are apt to be in place with the next CBA. Until this new CBA gets hammered out, the QO is on its last leg as written.

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Old CBA. Changes are apt to be in place with the next CBA. Until this new CBA gets hammered out, the QO is on its last leg as written.

But, the current CBA is still in place. Fowler rejected the Cubs offered, and signed with them.

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I asked this in another thread, and didnt see an answer.

What happen to the rule, if a player turns down a QO, he couldnt resign with that same team until early june.

I don't think that's ever been the case. Turning down the QO simply makes the player a FA (even though they technically already were one). The Orioles resigned Chris Davis didn't they? I'm pretty sure he was given a QO. If the team couldn't negotiate with the player after he rejected a QO, then probably no team would ever give one.

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But, the current CBA is still in place. Fowler rejected the Cubs offered, and signed with them.

When he becomes a freeagent again after the World Series in 2016, there will be a new CBA in place or they will be working off the current one. So yes according to the current CBA he can again receive a QO if he opts for Free Agency.

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I asked this in another thread, and didnt see an answer.

What happen to the rule, if a player turns down a QO, he couldnt resign with that same team until early june.

The non-negotiating till June was in the prior CBA. That was the one that had different levels placed on Free Agents and as to which ones were to have Draft Picks associated with them.

It also was the CBA that allowed the team that lost a player to free agency and was a level 1 (type A) got the pick from the team that signed the player.

I think your confusion is that the Pick associated with QO players gets removed after the June Draft if they then sign with a ballclub.

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When he becomes a freeagent again after the World Series in 2016, there will be a new CBA in place or they will be working off the current one. So yes according to the current CBA he can again receive a QO if he opts for Free Agency.

The timing here is going to be interesting. The CBA formally expires on December 1. By then the QO's already will have been made and accepted/rejected. If the system is suddenly changed, it could get quite complicated. I would say both sides have a pretty strong incentive to complete a new CBA by the end of the season, rather than the December 1 deadline.

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One thing I couldn't find - and it's never happened - what happens if it's accepted 2 years in a row? Does it escalate a percentage, like the NFL's Franchise Tag?

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One thing I couldn't find - and it's never happened - what happens if it's accepted 2 years in a row? Does it escalate a percentage, like the NFL's Franchise Tag?

No, but the price of a QO tends to increase every year, because it's calculated based on the average salary of the top 125 players in the previous season.

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One thing I couldn't find - and it's never happened - what happens if it's accepted 2 years in a row? Does it escalate a percentage, like the NFL's Franchise Tag?

It escalates each year tied to overall MLB salaries (or the top 150 or something like that -- I do not remember specifically).

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The timing here is going to be interesting. The CBA formally expires on December 1. By then the QO's already will have been made and accepted/rejected. If the system is suddenly changed, it could get quite complicated. I would say both sides have a pretty strong incentive to complete a new CBA by the end of the season, rather than the December 1 deadline.

I have hope that the new CBA is hammered out before the end of the season. The sticking points to get it done are not that numerous but still issues with both sides.

The QO and draft pick compensation may be of the most interest to the Players

The International Draft may be of the most interest to the Owners.

The total compensation of players as it relates to team revenues also will be an issue for the players.

Keeping the individual clubs revenue stream or lack thereof secret from the Players Union is also an owner issue.

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