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Orioles inquired about Melvin Upton, Jr (BlueJays)

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Ubaldo might be out of baseball next season. I would say the odds are over 50 percent that he isn't in baseball by the mid-point of next season.

He isn't free and he takes up a roster spot. It is like holding onto a company stock as it enters bankruptcy thinking it can't go any lower. Jiminez is done. Buck doesn't want him on the team anymore and won't pitch him.

He won't pitch him. That's the deal.

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The failures of this organization in developing pitching needs to be addressed. In order to be addressed, it needs to be recognized and not denied.

Every club in baseball besides the Rays is having trouble developing pitching. We have Bundy, Gausman, and Tillman in the rotation that the team developed. Decent starting pitching is very hard to find and develop. Especially when you play in a hitters park.

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So what? He stinks here and costs us games. He's no good to us, regardless of what he may do for someone else in the future.

Yeah who cares if someone else can fix him if we can't. He isn't going to a contender and getting starts.

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That's my point. It's almost funny people think Ubaldo=Upton.

Ryan Howard would be the equivalent of Jiminez.

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He's a free agent.

Ahh ok, I was hoping for a year of control. Oh well, I'd still take him at the right price.

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Cashner signed for 2016 only makes $7.15M this year. This year was his 3rd arbitration year.

Heh only.

Going by both rWAR and fWAR he is overpaid by the free agent scale of 8M/Win.

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