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MANCINI TRADE (Sideline Speculative Possibilities)

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12 minutes ago, wildcard said:

  They have a lot to do with each other.  If the O's trade Britton they probably don't need to trade Mancini.

I disagree, but that's ok. I'm not saying you have to move Mancini, but with Davis and Trumbo here he could be a sell high guy to improve the team in 2018. The division will only get tougher in my opinion so Baltimore either has to keep up or rebuild. The results speak for themselves. 

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Like any player you trade him if someone will give you back more value (by your analysis). Mancini is just another 1B/DH in an organization of 1B/DH. If you could get a quality SP prospect or a plus defensive middle infielder I think he is a good trade candidate. There are a bunch of 1B/DH players who are hitting as well as Mancini and making 1-5 Million (Smoak, Morrison, Thames, Mark Reynolds). Just because the O's overpaid by 5 to 20 times the market rate for Trumbo and Davis doesn't mean Mancini is worth much.

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14 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

Who gives up a quality young SP for Mancini?

A team that has reverse depth from us?  That needs young positional talent but has some depth at pitching.  I don't follow other teams closely enough to know who that might be.

Mancini has some red flags for sure, but I think you're underselling him just a bit.  He's hit well at every level, including his short time in the bigs.

Again, it seems very unlikely to me that you'd get something back that would be worth moving him for.  But if you were, that's what I'd be looking for.

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1 hour ago, pocketRIPKENS said:

Make a case for trading Trey Mancini. What would he fetch? Is it completely moronic to trade him considering we have him locked up for 6 or so years? In my opinion, he isn't a perennial major league hitter, has very little versatility and is a defensive liability. His walk to K rate is bad and very feast or famine in my eyes. 

 I don't know what DD could get for him, 

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Would anyone do Mancini for Sonny Gray and Sean Doolittle?  Could he even command both those guys?

It's a creative thought, and probably inarguable that Mancini is at a local peak in value.  It wouldn't shock me if the club's projections for outfielders in 2019 had Mancini in a muddle with Hays, Mountcastle and Mullins.

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8 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

Because he's a 1B/DH and he's 25 years old - not enough of a track record of success  to be considered low risk and not young enough to be considered a high reward.

My general philosophy is that the market value of players should be tested on a regular basis.   You might be correct, but you never know unless you've tested the waters.   

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Is it possible to move Davis?

I expect the O's to keep Mancini. He's the best all around hitter on the team right now. He plays the game the right way. I expect him to take over the "Adam Jones - Team Leader" role in the next few years. 

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1 hour ago, OrioleDog said:

Would anyone do Mancini for Sonny Gray and Sean Doolittle?  Could he even command both those guys?

It's a creative thought, and probably inarguable that Mancini is at a local peak in value.  It wouldn't shock me if the club's projections for outfielders in 2019 had Mancini in a muddle with Hays, Mountcastle and Mullins.

Even with Sonny Gray's struggles the past two seasons, you would need more then Mancini alone to land Gray. Mancini was not a hyped up prospect, Orioles would be better off holding onto him.  

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4 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

The only case Id make to trade Mancini now would be a case of insanity.The kid is going to be a star.And he plays defense reasonably well in two positions.

We continue to way overvalue our players

Look at what other 1B/DH players are making, they are easy to find

Mancini will never be more than a barely passable LF'er

We need pitching and middle infielders (plus defenders).

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12 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

We continue to way overvalue our players

Look at what other 1B/DH players are making, they are easy to find

Mancini will never be more than a barely passable LF'er

We need pitching and middle infielders (plus defenders).

What point are you making? 

You are saying we are overvaluing him, then you imply that we can get a pitcher or middle infielder for him.

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