Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
coe76

Garabez Rosa

Recommended Posts

I have watched the stats on this kid for three years and have been dumbfounded by the lack of attention he has gotten both online and seemingly by the O's brass.  What seems to be the issue with him?  He has played multiple positions this year and has hit well.  Flaherty cannot hit his IQ so I would hope the O's would look at a reasonable utility alternative.  Any insight is appreciated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, coe76 said:

I have watched the stats on this kid for three years and have been dumbfounded by the lack of attention he has gotten both online and seemingly by the O's brass.  What seems to be the issue with him?  He has played multiple positions this year and has hit well.  Flaherty cannot hit his IQ so I would hope the O's would look at a reasonable utility alternative.  Any insight is appreciated.

His stats are honestly kind of deceptive. He always hits for a good average but he almost never walks, and has very little power.

This is his best minor league season so far, he is hitting 16% above league average (using wRC, a stat that captures overall offensive contributions relative to league average).  16% above league average is good, but there are other things to consider. First, he is 27+ years old, one of the oldest players in the league. Secondly, this his fifth season in AA (only one of the other four was above average at +3%, the other three were -19%,-5%, and -21%). Third, since you made the comparison to Flaherty, the last time Flaherty played at the AA level was in 2011 (as a 24 year old) and he hit 43% above league average. 

Basically there is a lot more than batting average to consider, age is extremely important when evaluating a player, and level of competition is also very important.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, coe76 said:

I have watched the stats on this kid for three years and have been dumbfounded by the lack of attention he has gotten both online and seemingly by the O's brass.  What seems to be the issue with him?  He has played multiple positions this year and has hit well.  Flaherty cannot hit his IQ so I would hope the O's would look at a reasonable utility alternative.  Any insight is appreciated.

He's 27-years-old and has a .673 career OPS in the minors. In 3800 at bats. A career .291 OBP. He's had not even 100 at bats above AA, and he's look awful in them. The guy is a non-prospect. Organizational filler. I'm stunned the Orioles keep giving him a job, even in Bowie. He's had 9 years to make it. He's failed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, coe76 said:

I have watched the stats on this kid for three years and have been dumbfounded by the lack of attention he has gotten both online and seemingly by the O's brass.  What seems to be the issue with him?  He has played multiple positions this year and has hit well.  Flaherty cannot hit his IQ so I would hope the O's would look at a reasonable utility alternative.  Any insight is appreciated.

Pretty sure Flaherty hits his weight.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, FlipTheBird said:

He's 27-years-old and has a .673 career OPS in the minors. In 3800 at bats. A career .291 OBP. He's had not even 100 at bats above AA, and he's look awful in them. The guy is a non-prospect. Organizational filler. I'm stunned the Orioles keep giving him a job, even in Bowie. He's had 9 years to make it. He's failed.

Those last 2 sentences weren't necessary.  While he's not a prospect, he's a useful organization player who can fill in at several positions and does a solid job offensively.  Just because he's not a prospect doesn't mean he's not useful.  

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

Those last 2 sentences weren't necessary.  While he's not a prospect, he's a useful organization player who can fill in at several positions and does a solid job offensively.  Just because he's not a prospect doesn't mean he's not useful.  

That he's the starting second baseman on our AA squad is a testament to how barren this organization's cupboards are. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, FlipTheBird said:

That he's the starting second baseman on our AA squad is a testament to how barren this organization's cupboards are. 

He's not. He fills in at 1st, 3rd, and outfield.

Not every position at every level will have a future major leaguer. Rosa goes out, does what is asked of him, and keeps it moving. By all accounts, he is a very good person and teammate, something that can keep you around in the minors even if your skills should point elsewhere.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, coe76 said:

I have watched the stats on this kid for three years and have been dumbfounded by the lack of attention he has gotten both online and seemingly by the O's brass.  What seems to be the issue with him?  He has played multiple positions this year and has hit well.  Flaherty cannot hit his IQ so I would hope the O's would look at a reasonable utility alternative.  Any insight is appreciated.

Given that his career average is .216, this would make him easily one of the five smartest recorded people of all time. Just sayin.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, FlipTheBird said:

That he's the starting second baseman on our AA squad is a testament to how barren this organization's cupboards are. 

Your criticisms are off base.  You don't seem to understand that not every minor leaguer is there to be a prospect for their major league teams.  It's probably less than half.  Rosa does what he's asked to do and is useful in doing so.    

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Ruzious said:

Your criticisms are off base.  You don't seem to understand that not every minor leaguer is there to be a prospect for their major league teams.  It's probably less than half.  Rosa does what he's asked to do and is useful in doing so.    

I'm not criticizing Garabez Rosa. I'm stating fact. I know nothing about Garabez Rosa the person. I'm not criticizing Garabez Rosa the person.

The original poster asked why no one is paying attention to Garabez Rosa the baseball player. I answered.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, FlipTheBird said:

I'm not criticizing Garabez Rosa. I'm stating fact. I know nothing about Garabez Rosa the person. I'm not criticizing Garabez Rosa the person.

The original poster asked why no one is paying attention to Garabez Rosa the baseball player. I answered.

You did with your last 3 sentences. 

Must be tough watching someone play a game they enjoy and get paid doing it, while they smile and be a team player while also knowing they will almost never get a chance to play in the Majors.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

You did with your last 3 sentences. 

Must be tough watching someone play a game they enjoy and get paid doing it, while they smile and be a team player while also knowing they will almost never get a chance to play in the Majors.

Sure, the first sentence was editorializing on my part. Which is fair, since this is a message board. The second two remain fact.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At least we're giving him a chance to play a bunch of positions. We've kept AAA as the taxi squad under DD. He's not better than Janish and this year we had Giovetella. He's valuable to Bowie and they are the one full season affiliate with a shot at the playoffs. That means a little. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

Orioles Information


Orioles News and Information

Daily Organizational Boxscores
News

Tony's Takes

Orioles Roster Resource

Orioles Prospect Information

2020 Top 30 Prospects List

Prospect Scouting Reports

Statistics

2020 Orioles Stats

2019 Orioles Minor League Stats

Baseball Savant Stats






  • Posts

    • Boy that's hard. Machado might cause us to win a World Series. Would have liked to have Weiters and Davis that postseason. We definitely would have won then I believe
    • Mejia is essentially Richie Martin.  I do like the idea of picking up Robertson and/or Adeiny Hechavarria. Going into camp with Martin, Valaika, Sanchez, Ruiz, Urias, and one or both of Robertson/Hechavarria should get us through the season.  We also have Stevie Wilkerson back in AAA,  and I suppose Bannon and McCoy are of that age of do or die; so they could get a shot. If the O's can spend 40 million over 4 years on the Korean SS Kim and spread the cash 3, 7, 10, 20 to alleviate the bill while we shed Cobb and Davis (would back loading it be attractive to a FA since Covid my cut into salaries again?).  I think its a good gamble because we are starting to build enough young SS depth in the system, yet it probably won't be truly developed for another 3 to 5 years.  When Kim's contract would be up, we would hopefully have a couple options ready in AAA/AA ready to go. Signing Kim would allow use to take a chance at being competitive in 2022 and 2023 while we wait for the our next star SS to develop for the long haul. If they go big and sign Kim, I would go with Sanchez at 2B and let Valaika, Ruiz, Martin, and Urias battle it out for 3B and a utility role or two.  You could still sign one of Robertson/Hechavarria to come in for that roster battle.  In the end, if you could space out Kim's contract, the next two seasons could still be fairly cost effective.  You are taking the risk on years 3 and 4.  If Kim ends up flopping that 20 million in year 4 would be a bummer, but at least the last few years of Davis and Cobb have softened that potential blow a little bit.  If we strike gold on Kim and our young pitching and position players start blossoming, it could get exciting by next season, which would be 2 years early based on my initial predictions with the rebuild.
    • I dont know about you all, but watching the stars of my youth playing out their careers while being an embarrassment to the game is absolutely heartbreaking to me.  I like how football does contracts with a portion being guaranteed and a portion, typically the last year or two not guaranteed.  Football contracts are typically much shorter.  I think it’s partially steroid related, but these baseball players seems to hit a cliff in their low 30s now.  Obviously this isn’t true for all players, but these massive contracts seem terrible for the game.     any thoughts on how to make baseball contracts better? The obvious answer would be to not give out foolish contracts, but that always happens as gms are understandably short sighted.  
    • Another gem.   Love hearing these stories of how it was in the old days.     https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-conversation-with-1960s-slugger-jim-gentile-part-one/ https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-conversation-with-1960s-slugger-jim-gentile-part-two/
    • Hope you are right.  Elias would probably go that high and Galvis would be a good defensive SS to have as an Oriole.
    • I’m going to guess that he will be lucky to get 2.5M this year and I would think that number will be high.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...