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I'll admit, I am not as up to speed as I used to be but I gave it a good 30-60 minute thought process.    I had a previous top 30 already in hand and just revised it a bit.     I gave more emphasis to players who still project either as starting pitchers or starting players over guys who might have a better chance of reaching the majors as relievers or bench players.     Although, I feel I have a pretty good knowledge of the minor league system of course I welcome any criticism, comparisons, or critiques from others, SOME more knowledgeable or with a more educated opinion.     It's possible I even left some player who deserves to be high on the list out completely.   I don't think I did.    Santander would have been in my top ten but I assume he used up his rookie status last year.    Anyway, here it is:

 

1. Austin Hays    (best all around player.  Best bet)
 2. Hunter Harvey 
 3. Ryan Mountcastle   (plate discipline and defensive position are huge question marks)
 4. Chance Sisco   (The bat will really have to jump to make him a regular catcher for years to come)
 5. Cedric Mullins  (great start and then hamstring problems.  Looks like all around player with surprising power)
 6. D.L. Hall   (too soon to tell.   Here because of draft status)
 7. Alex Wells   (amazing numbers. I was not bullish but he stays here until he proves otherwise)
 8. Keegan Akin  
 9. D.J. Stewart          (a breakout 2nd half in 2016 followed by a breakout 2017)
10. Adam Hall           (only played 2 games but draft status plus reports put him here)
11. Jomar Reyes      (Luster starting to fade but breakout potential for the bat still there)
12. Brenann Hannifee   (Young pitcher and Philly is high on him.  Good enough for me)
13. Ryan McKenna  (breakout 2nd half last year.   A totally different hitter in the 2nd half)
14. Zac Lowther
15. Tanner Scott   (Upside to be a closer but it seems like command/control will always hold him back)
16. Cody Sedlcok   (Good 1st 3 starts.  Health is shadow hanging over him after 2 DL stints for forearm/flexor strains
17. Yefry Ramirez
18. Lucas Long        
19. Cameron Bishop
20. David Hess
21. Adema Rifaela    
22. Matthias Dietz
23. Michael Baumann
24. Jhon Peluffo 
25. Yelin Rodriguez
26. Gray Fenter
27. Jimmy Yacabonis
28. Jon Means
29. Lamar Sparks
30. Austin Wynns

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51 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

Does Santander not qualify?

He should.

I really like RZNJ’s top 10, and any list that has Wynns 30th shows we have better depth in the system than we’ve had in a long time.   

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1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

I'll admit, I am not as up to speed as I used to be but I gave it a good 30-60 minute thought process.    I had a previous top 30 already in hand and just revised it a bit.     I gave more emphasis to players who still project either as starting pitchers or starting players over guys who might have a better chance of reaching the majors as relievers or bench players.     Although, I feel I have a pretty good knowledge of the minor league system of course I welcome any criticism, comparisons, or critiques from others, SOME more knowledgeable or with a more educated opinion.     It's possible I even left some player who deserves to be high on the list out completely.   I don't think I did.    Santander would have been in my top ten but I assume he used up his rookie status last year.    Anyway, here it is:

 

1. Austin Hays    (best all around player.  Best bet)
 2. Hunter Harvey 
 3. Ryan Mountcastle   (plate discipline and defensive position are huge question marks)
 4. Chance Sisco   (The bat will really have to jump to make him a regular catcher for years to come)
 5. D.L. Hall   (too soon to tell.   Here because of draft status) 
 6. Cedric Mullins  (great start and then hamstring problems.  Looks like all-around player with surprising power)
 7.  Adam Hall           (only played 2 games but draft status plus reports put him here)
 8. Keegan Akin  
 9. D.J. Stewart          (a breakout 2nd half in 2016 followed by a breakout 2017)
10.  Zac Lowther 
11. Cody Sedlcok   (Good 1st 3 starts.  Health is shadow hanging over him after 2 DL stints for forearm/flexor strains 
12. Tanner Scott   (Upside to be a closer but it seems like command/control will always hold him back) Brenann Hannifee   (Young pitcher and Philly is high on him.  Good enough for me)
13.  Alex Wells   (amazing numbers. I was not bullish but he stays here until he proves otherwise)
14. Jomar Reyes      (Luster starting to fade but breakout potential for the bat still there)
15. Brenann Hannifee   (Young pitcher and Philly is high on him.  Good enough for me)
16. Ryan McKenna  (breakout 2nd half last year.   A totally different hitter in the 2nd half)
17. Yefry Ramirez
18. Lucas Long        
19. Cameron Bishop
20. David Hess
21. Adema Rifaela    
22. Matthias Dietz
23. Michael Baumann
24. Jhon Peluffo 
25. Yelin Rodriguez
26. Gray Fenter
27. Jimmy Yacabonis
28. Jon Means
29. Lamar Sparks
30. Austin Wynns

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I did a little shake-up on your list, But I do mostly agree. May changes are based on what I think will be the MLB outcome for these players. 

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2 hours ago, weams said:

I did a little shake-up on your list, But I do mostly agree. May changes are based on what I think will be the MLB outcome for these players. 

What’s your reason for ranking Lowther over Wells?   They’re both control guys without overwhelming fastballs, but Wells is younger and has already proven himself in full-season ball.

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This is my top 30 Contribution:

RANK TALENT LEVEL RANKING

1Hunter Harvey

2Austin Hays

3Ryan Mountcastle

4Chance Sisco

5Anthony Santander

6D.L. Hall

7Keegan Akin

8Cedric Mullins

9Alex Wells

10Adam Hall

11Cody Sedlock

12D.J. Stewart

13Zac Lowther

14Ademar Rifela

15Tanner Scott

16Gray Fenter

17Brendan Hanifee

18Lamar Sparks

19Cameron Bishop

20David Hess

21Trevor Craport

22Chris Lee

23Lucas Long

24Mason McCoy

25Michael Baumann

26Yefri Rameriz

27Jomar Reyes

28Ryan Meisinger

29Matthew Deitz

30Jhon Peluffo

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

What’s your reason for ranking Lowther over Wells?   They’re both control guys without overwhelming fastballs, but Wells is younger and has already proven himself in full-season ball.

The strikeouts. That's all. 

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

What’s your reason for ranking Lowther over Wells?   They’re both control guys without overwhelming fastballs, but Wells is younger and has already proven himself in full-season ball.

I may be chasing the fantasy of this. 

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/06/cuyahoga_heights_zac_lowther_t.html

 

 

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

What’s your reason for ranking Lowther over Wells?   They’re both control guys without overwhelming fastballs, but Wells is younger and has already proven himself in full-season ball.

Lowther has better stuff, so it’s defensible. Wells has special command and feel for pitching at a young age, which is why I have him ahead.  

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On 11/11/2017 at 6:10 PM, Mountain Bird said:

 

This is my top 30 Contribution:

RANK TALENT LEVEL RANKING

1Hunter Harvey

2Austin Hays

3Ryan Mountcastle

4Chance Sisco

5Anthony Santander

6D.L. Hall

7Keegan Akin

8Cedric Mullins

9Alex Wells

10Adam Hall

11Cody Sedlock

12D.J. Stewart

13Zac Lowther

14Ademar Rifela

15Tanner Scott

16Gray Fenter

17Brendan Hanifee

18Lamar Sparks

19Cameron Bishop

20David Hess

21Trevor Craport

22Chris Lee

23Lucas Long

24Mason McCoy

25Michael Baumann

26Yefri Rameriz

27Jomar Reyes

28Ryan Meisinger

29Matthew Deitz

30Jhon Peluffo

Solid list, I like seeing different opinions.  Just a couple things though jump out at me, Jomar Reyes and Chris Lee.  Lee wasn't in my top 45, I don't think he has the swing and miss stuff for relief and he doesn't have the command or the repertoire to start.  Reyes I think has lost some luster in some people's minds, but he'll most likely be in AA at 21 at some point next year and has big raw power, a big arm, and an underrated hit tool.  He's actually gotten better conditioned instead of slower and bigger like scouts once thought.  

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3 hours ago, phillyOs119 said:

Solid list, I like seeing different opinions.  Just a couple things though jump out at me, Jomar Reyes and Chris Lee.  Lee wasn't in my top 45, I don't think he has the swing and miss stuff for relief and he doesn't have the command or the repertoire to start.  Reyes I think has lost some luster in some people's minds, but he'll most likely be in AA at 21 at some point next year and has big raw power, a big arm, and an underrated hit tool.  He's actually gotten better conditioned instead of slower and bigger like scouts once thought.  

Great to hear. 

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5 hours ago, phillyOs119 said:

Solid list, I like seeing different opinions.  Just a couple things though jump out at me, Jomar Reyes and Chris Lee.  Lee wasn't in my top 45, I don't think he has the swing and miss stuff for relief and he doesn't have the command or the repertoire to start.  Reyes I think has lost some luster in some people's minds, but he'll most likely be in AA at 21 at some point next year and has big raw power, a big arm, and an underrated hit tool.  He's actually gotten better conditioned instead of slower and bigger like scouts once thought.  

Thanks, I had Lee in there because other than this past season he had been solid in the past. Reyes does have a ton of potential and may have to be across the diamond at some point but his value is higher if he can stay at third.

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