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27 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Like so many things around here, it’s all a matter of how you want to define the term.   I think my definition (the kind of player who usually only comes around for a team once every 15-20 years or so) is about the same as what you are suggesting, as there is more than one player who meets that definition and certainly less than 30.

We might agree that Frank Robinson qualified as a "generational talent." As did Roberto Clemente. And Willie Mays. Difficult for me to mark down any of them just because they played at the same time.

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So when do we think the earliest is that he'll get in a game? April is uh... we're gonna need him in April. So I hope it's only like 1 or 2 starts in the minors.

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1 minute ago, Beef Supreme said:

We might agree that Frank Robinson qualified as a "generational talent." As did Roberto Clemente. And Willie Mays. Difficult for me to mark down any of them just because they played at the same time.

Don't forget Mickey Mantle, Hank Aaron, Sandy Koufax, etc.

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44 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Like so many things around here, it’s all a matter of how you want to define the term.   I think my definition (the kind of player who usually only comes around for a team once every 15-20 years or so) is about the same as what you are suggesting, as there is more than one player who meets that definition and certainly less than 30.

Is Joe Flacco a generational talent?

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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Is he tho?

How different is he from Nolan Arenado?  Sure Manny started his career three years younger but Nolan is already within .5 rWAR.

Yes.  Off the Cobb topic, but https://www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx?players=9777,11493,1011586,1274&wg=2

A-Rod probably could have ragged on Machado this offseason about messing up his age-24 year.

Arenado's probably just as good as Machado the next 4 years, but if I had to guess, the subsequent 4 will tilt Manny's way again.  I say this thinking Arenado's probably someone with a fair shot at a 10-year regular HOF prime, but Machado has almost as good a shot at the 15-year inner circle prime. 

Especially if his psychobabble really plays, and excitement at getting to (finally) do all the A-Rod things fuels us this year.

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Team looks good all of a sudden. This signing has Brady and Sons all over it. Cobb has alot of success pitching in the AL East . We all know Buck and Duquette like that. 

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3 minutes ago, jabba72 said:

Team looks good all of a sudden. This signing has Brady and Sons all over it. Cobb has alot of success pitching in the AL East . We all know Buck and Duquette like that. 

I've been saying if the O's say they value AL experience (like they said they did with  Casher/others), they should be throwing money at Cobb.

And they did!

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25 minutes ago, MDtransplant757 said:

 

Looks like we don't need a fifth starter until April 10 if my calculations are accurate.  

Cortez might have to pitch one time.  Allows Cobb to get two starts in the minors.  

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18 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

Looks like we don't need a fifth starter until April 10 if my calculations are accurate.  

Cortez might have to pitch one time.  Allows Cobb to get two starts in the minors.  

April 4

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27 minutes ago, theocean said:

Is Joe Flacco a generational talent?

I was thinking about how "generational talent" sounded suspiciously like "elite quarterback" to me.

And, no...

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Now the questions is (provided he passes the physical): how fast can he get ready for the season. Some of that depends on what he was doing while waiting to sign. Has he been throwing bullpens and sim games? Can he get ready to pitch a Spring Training game in a few days? If so, the rotation could break down as such:

March 29 - Gausman

March 31 - Bundy

April 1 - Cashner

April 2 - Tillman

April 3 - Gausman

April 4 - Cortez/Wright

April 5 - Bundy

April 6 - Cashner

April 7 - Tillman

April 8 - Gausman

April 9 - Cobb

Of course, I'll be at that April 11 game and wouldn't mind the O's finding a way to make that his O's debut.

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1 hour ago, theocean said:

Is Joe Flacco a generational talent?

He’s the best ravens QB since they’ve been in Baltimore.  Will likely play at least 5 more years. I think it’s pretty safe to say that in a good 30 year span that he was the best in Baltimore. 30 years is a generation right?  

Not a ravens fan. 

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58 minutes ago, jamalshw said:

Now the questions is (provided he passes the physical): how fast can he get ready for the season. Some of that depends on what he was doing while waiting to sign. Has he been throwing bullpens and sim games? Can he get ready to pitch a Spring Training game in a few days? If so, the rotation could break down as such:

March 29 - Gausman

March 31 - Bundy

April 1 - Cashner

April 2 - Tillman

April 3 - Gausman

April 4 - Cortez/Wright

April 5 - Bundy

April 6 - Cashner

April 7 - Tillman

April 8 - Gausman

April 9 - Cobb

Of course, I'll be at that April 11 game and wouldn't mind the O's finding a way to make that his O's debut.

That April 4th game is tough. We always get killed in HOU. Maybe we throw a bullpen game and piece it together with fresh arms. 

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