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1 minute ago, badmamajama said:

He might be the next Mike Bordick. Would that be so bad?

 

Player or announcer?:)

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4 minutes ago, O's are Legends said:

I can't speak for everyone but it seems people are down on the 1st pick and 2nd pick.

There looks to have been better pitchers available at 11.

I actually like the first pick. I don't love it, and I probably would have picked differently, but I like the player and I think it was a solid pick. The second one? That one baffled me a bit. 

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2 minutes ago, badmamajama said:

He might be the next Mike Bordick. Would that be so bad?

 

Mike Bordick could hit, though.

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12 minutes ago, Oriol3s said:

Money isn't an issue in the draft.  Each team has its allocations from MLB, and can't go over by much.  It's still one of the CHEAPEST ways to get valuable talent without spending $10M on one player.  The O's are allowed to spend $8.75M total this year (plus a little).

Okay my mistake.

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4 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

Usually if you are good enough to stick at SS you get signed out of HS, he’s one of the few college SS who will stay there as a pro. 

I have to think they think they can do something with his swing, he did not hit the ball hard very often.

Interestingly, he was almost drafted in the 1st round out of HS:
 

On Monday night, as the first round of the 2015 MLB Draft unfolded, Cadyn Grenier received a call from the St. Louis Cardinals.

They were interested in taking the Oregon State signee with the 23rdoverall pick. Talks broke down, Grenier said, when St. Louis couldn't match his asking price.

http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/06/cadyn_grenier_to_join_oregon_s.html

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The same guy picked these last year. 

Player Slot       Spent   Savings Pick#
1. DL Hall - LHP - Valdosta (Ga.) HS $2,892,400  $3,000,000  $-107,600 21
2. Adam Hall, SS, A.B. Lucas HS (ON,CAN) $1,068,700  $1,300,000  $-232,000 60
2A Zac Lowther - LHP - Xavier $779,500  $779,500  $0 74
3. Mike Baumann - RHP -  Jacksonville Univ. $547,700  $500,000 $ 47,700 98
4. Jack Conlon - RHP - Clements HS (TX) $409,000     128
5. Lamar Sparks- CF - Seven Lakes HS (TX) $304,800   $304,800  0 158
6. Mason McCoy -SS- Iowa $235,700  $10,000 $225,700 188
7. Ben Breazeale - C - Wake Forest $184,800  $10,000 $174,800 218
8. Jimmy Murphy - RHP- Fordham $152,700  $5,000 $147,700 248
9. T.J. Nichting - OF - UNC-Charlotte $139,300  $5,000 $134,300 278
10. Josh Keaton - RP - Adams State University $132,100  $10,000 $122,100 308
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8 minutes ago, 24fps said:

I'll happily settle for singles and doubles to all fields.  Several posters have already speculated future utility player.  That's the vibe I get at this point as well.

Honestly, if you can get a platoon/utility guy for 6-7 years at the MLB level that is probably pretty awesome value for what is essentially a 2nd round pick. 

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1 minute ago, LocoChris said:

Where though? Some 37th rounder that has zero chance of making it past A ball?

That's not how the MLB draft works. In the MLB draft you must sign all of your picks in the 1st round or earlier or you lose that picks slot money. What typically happens is teams splurge early then picks like 5-10 are given to college seniors and others who will sign super cheaply for like 10k. Then the 11th round is typically a splurge round where teams know approximately how much money they're going to have to work with so they start drafting all the guys who were undrafted due to high dollar demands. This happens until the end of the draft because there is no penalty for not signing people in rounds 11-40. Often times people are drafted in those rounds with no intend to sign them at all, but just to let the player know they're interested in them when the time comes. So a player in the 37th round might be a top 100 ranked player, he might be a nothing, but you can't go by the round and say they're going to be good or not.

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3 minutes ago, weams said:

The same guy picked these last year. 

Player Slot       Spent   Savings Pick#
1. DL Hall - LHP - Valdosta (Ga.) HS $2,892,400  $3,000,000  $-107,600 21
2. Adam Hall, SS, A.B. Lucas HS (ON,CAN) $1,068,700  $1,300,000  $-232,000 60
2A Zac Lowther - LHP - Xavier $779,500  $779,500  $0 74
3. Mike Baumann - RHP -  Jacksonville Univ. $547,700  $500,000 $ 47,700 98
4. Jack Conlon - RHP - Clements HS (TX) $409,000     128
5. Lamar Sparks- CF - Seven Lakes HS (TX) $304,800   $304,800  0 158
6. Mason McCoy -SS- Iowa $235,700  $10,000 $225,700 188
7. Ben Breazeale - C - Wake Forest $184,800  $10,000 $174,800 218
8. Jimmy Murphy - RHP- Fordham $152,700  $5,000 $147,700 248
9. T.J. Nichting - OF - UNC-Charlotte $139,300  $5,000 $134,300 278
10. Josh Keaton - RP - Adams State University $132,100  $10,000 $122,100 308

That’s a darn good draft so far. Even our 5 & 10k signs have given us a little something. 

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Just now, Tryptamine said:

That's not how the MLB draft works. In the MLB draft you must sign all of your picks in the 1st round or earlier or you lose that picks slot money. What typically happens is teams splurge early then picks like 5-10 are given to college seniors and others who will sign super cheaply for like 10k. Then the 11th round is typically a splurge round where teams know approximately how much money they're going to have to work with so they start drafting all the guys who were undrafted due to high dollar demands. This happens until the end of the draft because there is no penalty for not signing people in rounds 11-40. Often times people are drafted in those rounds with no intend to sign them at all, but just to let the player know they're interested in them when the time comes. So a player in the 37th round might be a top 100 ranked player, he might be a nothing, but you can't go by the round and say they're going to be good or not.

For example Bobby Miller, drafted in the 30somethingth round by the Orioles last year, he was an excellent pitcher as a freshman in the SEC this year after not signing, he’ll likely be a 1st or 2nd rd pick when eligible again.

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