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Cubs rumored to have deal (offer) for Manny

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1 minute ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

Thank you Roy. I really appreciate this info. Do you think the deal will get done today or tomorrow?

I don't know that it will be done at all...and never said it was.

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9 minutes ago, dabirds said:

Yuck.  I want no part of Baez.  Just more of the same - power with no OBP.  Try to get Happ instead...

I don't like this trade at all.  Baez's current production isn't sustainable, and the Orioles don't need another high strikeout hitter who doesn't walk.  

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I realize that you never said that the deal was done. I appreciate you sticking your neck out here. Did your source say if the Orioles like this deal or are the Cubs pushing this?

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Cubs might be trying to strike early.  Arizona is free falling with Pollack out and may get in panic mode and come hard at a deal for Machado.  Cubs could be trying to beat them to the punch with a much stronger deal of Baez over Russell.

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Baez would play SS if here not Schoop many people wanted Baez to play short over Russell in Chicago.  He has much better range then Schoop and not a huge drop off at arm either. 

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27 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

If its true that the Cubs would offer Baez and Mike Montgomery plus another pitching prospect for Manny, I would take that deal. Baez is a a solid second baseman, and you could move Schoop to SS or 3b if they do acquire Baez. (Maybe acquire Moustakas down the road too)I like Montgomery too and I know him well. He came to my house for a baseball seminar and was the only player of the 16 prospects at my house who wrote a hand written thank you note for allowing my house to be used for a meeting.I have NO interest in Addison Russell who looks like a troubled kid with a suspicion of domestic violence. But then, thats never stopped us before...remember Frankie Rodriguez.

Wasn't this the rumored package in the off season? Baez has his flaws, no doubt, but I certainly like him more than Happ and Russell. The Cubs might also think a 1/2 season of Manny playing with his cousin (Almora) might be enough to give them a leg up on resigning him. Mike Montgomery's kinda underwhelming, but to be honest I would probably trade Manny straight up for Baez at this point. 

A better question for you. Would you swap Chris Davis for Jason Heyward? 

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Would you guys do Manny for Javier Baez, Mike Montgomery, and Mark Zaguinus?

The team needs a corner outfielder and Zaguinus has really good on base skills but is blocked at the ML level. Not a great defender though. 

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1 minute ago, Ripken said:

That better be one hell of a pitching prospect because Baez and Montgomery are nothing.

Uneducated takes like this are why I can't listen to sports radio call in shows. 

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6 minutes ago, Ripken said:

That better be one hell of a pitching prospect because Baez and Montgomery are nothing.

Baez is 25 has put up a war of 3.4 and 2.9 the last two years and is on pace for over 4 this season.   He has his faults with being a free swinger but to act like he is some bum you can pick up in the free agent heap is inaccurate.  He can play both SS and 2nd base at above average and has a strong bat that hits for power. 

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44 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

If its true that the Cubs would offer Baez and Mike Montgomery plus another pitching prospect for Manny, I would take that deal. Baez is a a solid second baseman, and you could move Schoop to SS or 3b if they do acquire Baez. (Maybe acquire Moustakas down the road too)I like Montgomery too and I know him well. He came to my house for a baseball seminar and was the only player of the 16 prospects at my house who wrote a hand written thank you note for allowing my house to be used for a meeting.I have NO interest in Addison Russell who looks like a troubled kid with a suspicion of domestic violence. But then, thats never stopped us before...remember Frankie Rodriguez.

This looks like a deal Syd Thrift would make. We already witnessed that nightmare in 2000.

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I would not be a fan of that deal as described. The Cubs are really light on high end pitching prospects, so the unknown prospect isn't going to change the calculus much on this one. Baez has pop but his plate discipline is terrible and he can be exploited by decent pitching. I have no confidence in the current FO to get a decent return for Manny, but this would be even worse than my already low expectations, which if I ever write an autobiography about being an Orioles fan might be a decent title for it.  Even Worse Than My Low Expectations: - My Life As an Orioles Fan by Canadianoriole.

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7 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

Would you guys do Manny for Javier Baez, Mike Montgomery, and Mark Zaguinus?

The team needs a corner outfielder and Zaguinus has really good on base skills but is blocked at the ML level. Not a great defender though. 

They don't need a corner outfielder when that is the place most of their prospects are at.  They have Mancini, Hays, Santander, and Stewart all that fit as a corner outfield type.  They need to look for either pitching or infield help. 

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