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Machado Trade Expectations

Machado Trade Expectations  

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  1. 1. Regarding the return we receive, what are your expectations of whatever Machado trade takes place?

    • The return will be outstanding.
    • The return will be solid.
    • The return will be merely decent.
    • The return will be poor.
    • The return will be just terrible.
    • I expect we will not trade him at all, getting only a compensation pick in next year's draft.


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5 minutes ago, orioles22 said:

Odds are we end up with four Juan Bells if we can't get May as the second guy. Diaz is fourth and May 10th on their list - that seems reasonable to me for a guy who could help you win the World Series.

I think many folks here are quoting various lists and often these references to rankings were based in the pre-season.  Ask most scouts who the Top 10 Dodgers prospects are right now, and that list would look much different.  Verdugo may no longer qualify, so Diaz may be #1 now, and May could be as high as 2nd/3rd.

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4 minutes ago, Flacco Machado said:

I'm remodeling a kitchen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you guys want something to do.

Believe me, you wouldn’t want my help.    There’s a reason I’m practicing law rather than carrying a tool belt.    I’m competent at the former and completely incompetent on the home repair/maintenance front.  

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9 minutes ago, badmamajama said:

Don't know if this means anything but on mlb.com top 30 prospects list for the Dodgers it has Ruiz, Diaz and Heredia as temporarily inactive where it says team and D. Santana has a blank for team.

That has already been mentioned on here.  Players that were in the futures gams show as inactive.  

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Does Brady have to put the players thru a series of lifting drills before he signs off on the trade pieces. 

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4 minutes ago, theocean said:

You're making sense! If the Phillies offered Medina - I'm guessing the Dodgers offer must have some good stuff to make it better, since Diaz and Medina are apparently comparable. I know the Orioles really wanted May, so perhaps that's what pushed it over the edge.

I think there is a decent gulf between Diaz and Medina - though both might still have overall 55 ratings. 

Folks classifying the remaining guys coming over with Diaz as "throw ins", "rule V guys" and generally disappointing prospects are really casting an unnecessary negative pall over this trade and severely playing down the capabilities of the few names mentioned as being among the additional guys.  

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8 minutes ago, badmamajama said:

Don't know if this means anything but on mlb.com top 30 prospects list for the Dodgers it has Ruiz, Diaz and Heredia as temporarily inactive where it says team and D. Santana has a blank for team.

Wasn't some of that for the Future's game?

 

11 minutes ago, xian4 said:

If real, this has since been deleted

I can't see it since it has been removed. What did it say?

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2 minutes ago, hoosiers said:

I think there is a decent gulf between Diaz and Medina - though both might still have overall 55 ratings. 

Folks classifying the remaining guys coming over with Diaz as "throw ins", "rule V guys" and generally disappointing prospects are really casting an unnecessary negative pall over this trade and severely playing down the capabilities of the few names mentioned as being among the additional guys.  

Also, I would do a straight 1 for 1 trade of Manny for Diaz. Diaz will literally be one of our top 3 prospects instantaneously. 

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Just now, LookitsPuck said:

I'd be curious if Brady and John Angelos get credit if the Machado trade includes Diaz and May on this forum. 🤷‍♂️

I don't think anyone knows who is responsible for what, though word is DD has been the guy handling the negotiations.

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Just now, pwhite said:

Also, I would do a straight 1 for 1 trade of Manny for Diaz. Diaz will literally be one of our top 3 prospects instantaneously. 

Yeah I was thinking this too.

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12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Believe me, you wouldn’t want my help.    There’s a reason I’m practicing law rather than carrying a tool belt.    I’m competent at the former and completely incompetent on the home repair/maintenance front.  

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Just to be clear a lot of the guys mentioned in this thread are not rule 5 guys.  A player would have to be drafted or signed before July 2014 in order to have to be on 40 man or be avaiable for rule 5.  Jackson was drafted in 2015 so not a rule 5 guy.  Alverez was signed in 2015 not a rule 5 guy either.  Rios was drafted in 2015 not a rule 5 potential guy either.  Ruiz is a a guy that needs protected, 

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While we're sitting around waiting to see how the Orioles screw this up, let's throw this out there...

What if we got Breaking News that the Orioles have resigned Manny to a 10 year, 350 million dollar deal.  Would you rather this scenario to the trade?

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1 minute ago, Dipper9 said:

While we're sitting around waiting to see how the Orioles screw this up, let's throw this out there...

What if we got Breaking News that the Orioles have resigned Manny to a 10 year, 350 million dollar deal.  Would you rather this scenario to the trade?

I love Manny but give me the prospects..

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