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With all due respect, this whole discussion about pitch selection and the catcher is irrelevant. Sherill hung a ball in the zone on both home runs. If those pitches had broken the way they were supposed to, we'd be celebrating a 3 game winning streak. I don't blame Sherill. As a pitcher, you get away with some of those and some you get punished for. In his case, he payed the ultimate price two games in a row. If he'd been protecting a 3-run lead it wouldn't have mattered so much. The story is the offense not the pitching.

Also, can someone give me a list of the "lots of pitchers" that don't like Ramon to catch them? 3 or 4 would do.

That's alot of ifs, If you ask me. You can't say that it's irrelevant when it did happen. The fact is we had the lead when we brought Sherrill in, how can you blame the offense for giving him a lead and a chance to close out the game.

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That's alot of ifs, If you ask me. You can't say that it's irrelevant when it did happen. The fact is we had the lead when we brought Sherrill in, how can you blame the offense for giving him a lead and a chance to close out the game.

Fair enough, but there's not denying that you'll save a lot more 3 run games than 1 run games. Its not like he's saving games that are 9-8. We've scored 3.5 runs per game in the two losses (against two of the worst teams in baseball).

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Don't roll your eyes at me, I was merely bringing up the fervor of that caller as an anecdotal aside.

That being said, I'd almost rather see Wieters struggle a bit at the ML level because at least he'd be trying...

I wasn't rolling my eyes at you...that was for the caller saying he should be in the majors already. Geez.

Our problems are not at the catcher position...we need help at SS. If he was a SS then I can see the argument for it.

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You thought that, too? Does our closer-sibling know why the glove went in to the crowd and not spiked in to the bench like usual when a pitcher starts to physically vent? If it's because he wanted to rid himself of the glove that'd be kinda awesome in its own way.

Once he has two bad outings in a row -- doesn't get his job done -- the glove goes into the seats. He would rather a fan have a souvenir than beat the glove up. He did it once in Seattle as well.

He was mad, so he tossed the gum instead of hitting a cooler. One, not to hurt himself, and two, not to waste everyone's drink.

He is way more upset at himself that any of you guys would be at him. Last night's pitch really upset him, as it slipped out of his hand a little -- so it just floated. It was just up there saying "hit me far".

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Once he has two bad outings in a row -- doesn't get his job done -- the glove goes into the seats. He would rather a fan have a souvenir than beat the glove up. He did it once in Seattle as well.

He was mad, so he tossed the gum instead of hitting a cooler. One, not to hurt himself, and two, not to waste everyone's drink.

He is way more upset at himself that any of you guys would be at him. Last night's pitch really upset him, as it slipped out of his hand a little -- so it just floated. It was just up there saying "hit me far".

That is all we need to know.

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Once he has two bad outings in a row -- doesn't get his job done -- the glove goes into the seats. He would rather a fan have a souvenir than beat the glove up. He did it once in Seattle as well.

He was mad, so he tossed the gum instead of hitting a cooler. One, not to hurt himself, and two, not to waste everyone's drink.

He is way more upset at himself that any of you guys would be at him. Last night's pitch really upset him, as it slipped out of his hand a little -- so it just floated. It was just up there saying "hit me far".

Glad to know I had at least one major-league pitch. ;)

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Once he has two bad outings in a row -- doesn't get his job done -- the glove goes into the seats. He would rather a fan have a souvenir than beat the glove up. He did it once in Seattle as well.

He was mad, so he tossed the gum instead of hitting a cooler. One, not to hurt himself, and two, not to waste everyone's drink.

He is way more upset at himself that any of you guys would be at him. Last night's pitch really upset him, as it slipped out of his hand a little -- so it just floated. It was just up there saying "hit me far".

I'm glad to see that, like many of the posters in this thread, Sherill doesn't blame Ramon Hernandez. It looked like the pitch got away from him and he paid the price. It happens...

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Once he has two bad outings in a row -- doesn't get his job done -- the glove goes into the seats. He would rather a fan have a souvenir than beat the glove up. He did it once in Seattle as well.

He was mad, so he tossed the gum instead of hitting a cooler. One, not to hurt himself, and two, not to waste everyone's drink.

He is way more upset at himself that any of you guys would be at him. Last night's pitch really upset him, as it slipped out of his hand a little -- so it just floated. It was just up there saying "hit me far".

That's nice that he thought of his teammates whilst venting his anger. :P

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Once he has two bad outings in a row -- doesn't get his job done -- the glove goes into the seats. He would rather a fan have a souvenir than beat the glove up. He did it once in Seattle as well.

He was mad, so he tossed the gum instead of hitting a cooler. One, not to hurt himself, and two, not to waste everyone's drink.

He is way more upset at himself that any of you guys would be at him. Last night's pitch really upset him, as it slipped out of his hand a little -- so it just floated. It was just up there saying "hit me far".

Dude, he might not care about one fan you talk to on the internets, but feel free to let your brother know that 1) I think it's incredibly awesome that he'd rather give his glove up as a souvenir than use it after a few bad outings again, and 2) that he has the sense to not only react in a way that doesn't hurt himself, but doesn't inconvenience his teammates (though as someone pointed out, it sort of inconvenienced an attendant, but Luke Scott gave him a hand cleaning it up).

But really, even if it was a gift borne of "I don't want this" its really a cool thing to give it to a fan.

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He was mad, so he tossed the gum instead of hitting a cooler. One, not to hurt himself, and two, not to waste everyone's drink.

Very cool that he can be PO'd enough to throw stuff and still be smart about it.

I was amazed to see that they have such a big honking container for used gum. How much gum do these guys go through anyway?

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Very cool that he can be PO'd enough to throw stuff and still be smart about it.

I was amazed to see that they have such a big honking container for used gum. How much gum do these guys go through anyway?

"That's none of your damn business and I'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs":wedge::laughlol:

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Yeah this whole pitch selection/catcher-pitcher relationship/human interaction has gotta be wayyyyyyy over your head.

How I wish my computer brain and hard drive soul could grasp how humans think. :(:002_scry:

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