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10 minutes ago, Obando said:

The theory that ownership put a cap on international spending and that’s why DD trades $750k of it for Jack Zoellner doesn’t add up for me.   Even if there was a cap/budget on what DD was allowed to spend, it still doesn’t justify the fact that he traded it away when he did.  This international bonus money is able to be spent thru 6/15/19, so why would DD feel the need to spend $750k of it in August, before he even knows how much it will take to sign the likes of VVM, Victor Jr. & Gaston?  That’s the part that makes no sense to me.  It’s almost like DD is a deal junkie and just couldn’t help himself, so he felt compelled to make this trade even though there was no need to do it.  I just can’t imagine that John & Lou gave DD direct orders to trade some of that money because he wasn’t allowed to spend more than $6.5M (or whatever the approved amount is) on international players.

I’m convinced that this move was made by DD without any interference from ownership, and it could be because he thought he had more than enough to sign VVM and other players, without the threat of being outbid by other teams, and this $750k was excess capital to use as funny money.  If that was his thinking, he deserved to be fired.  And just watch, Jack Zoellner will make it up to Frederick, if even that far, and then be released by the organization.

I agree, and have stated previously, that the timing was horrendous even if the O's never planned to spend the 750K.

I think it was a combination of being told he couldn't spend the money and the Phillies calling in a favor because of the botched Jones trade.  (I'm not suggesting my thoughts on this are groundbreaking)

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8 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

No reports of anything.  They are tight lipped, but not that tight lipped.  Reds are going nucking futs interviewing managers.  Not even any speculation about the Orioles.  

Roch did say this:

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The Orioles are keeping their business out of the press, whether it involves these negotiations or their search for a president of baseball operations, which will lead to the hiring of a GM type and manager.

 

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1 hour ago, higgybaby said:

Why don’t the O’s get more money??? This is ridiculous. 

Because they're not coming here. All this talk about the Orioles leading was always BS. If they haven't signed by now, they we're never going to anyways. Please everybody, do yourself a favor and move on. 

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Why would the O’s owe the Phillies a favor because Jones vetoed a trade?  Both teams knew he had 10 & 5 rights, so there was no guarantee he would approve a trade.  So why would the Phillies feel compelled to ask the O’s to make up for that by trading them $750k of international bonus money for a player that is clearly nothing special?  That’s not how this business works, and that’s why I’m not buying that this move was done as a “favor.”  I think the O’s scouts probably had good reports on Zoellner, so they traded for him.  Normally, it wouldn’t be a big deal.  But what they gave up to get him is what makes this a big deal, because it makes very little sense.

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9 minutes ago, Obando said:

Why would the O’s owe the Phillies a favor because Jones vetoed a trade?  Both teams knew he had 10 & 5 rights, so there was no guarantee he would approve a trade.  So why would the Phillies feel compelled to ask the O’s to make up for that by trading them $750k of international bonus money for a player that is clearly nothing special?  That’s not how this business works, and that’s why I’m not buying that this move was done as a “favor.”  I think the O’s scouts probably had good reports on Zoellner, so they traded for him.  Normally, it wouldn’t be a big deal.  But what they gave up to get him is what makes this a big deal, because it makes very little sense.

They may have promised the Phillies they could get Jones on board and that in turn may have caused the Phillies to not pursue someone else.

I don't know.

I do think the favor theory is more likely than trading 750K in slot money for a 23 year old in the GCL based off of merit.  Why would it take 750K to land him?  Shouldn't 250K been enough?

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1 hour ago, LookitsPuck said:

Duquette looking more and more like a chump for sending 750k to the Phillies. Beyond idiotic.

The only way it makes sense if DD was told by mgmt. that they would not be willing to spend the actual full amount of dollars allocated to the international signing pool.  In that case, use it or lose it.  Still gave up too much free money for a guy who was probably going to be released. 

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2 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Saying that, it does seem like the Mesa brothers are holding out until the Marlins can come up with the amount of money the Orioles can offer. At that point it's all over.

That also tells me that even with the Orioles having more money, they'd rather not play here.   Therefore, getting more money, or having the Zoellner money back, wouldn't help.

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