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Will Rob Manfred get another term as Commissioner?

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His term is up January 24, 2020.   About a year an a half from now.    Do you think the MLB owners vote him in for another term?

I think I know how the O's would vote.

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I think he’ll get another term.    I haven’t heard any rumblings that a large number of owners are dissatisfied with him.    Certainly one is.

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Just now, Frobby said:

I think he’ll get another term.    I haven’t heard any rumblings that a large number of owners are dissatisfied with him.    Certainly one is.

Revenue is high but I do have to wonder if the recent dip in attendance could be an issue.

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16 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I think he’ll get another term.    I haven’t heard any rumblings that a large number of owners are dissatisfied with him.    Certainly one is.

I agree.

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The Orioles not getting the 2019 All Star game is absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. Camden Yards is one of the nicest stadiums in baseball. I absolutely cannot believe that Camden Yards has only had one all star game.

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3 minutes ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

The Orioles not getting the 2019 All Star game is absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. Camden Yards is one of the nicest stadiums in baseball. I absolutely cannot believe that Camden Yards has only had one all star game.

There are 30 teams in MLB.    One all star game every 30 years is par for the course.   There hasn’t been one at Dodger Stadium in 38 years (but they’ll have it in 2020, 40 years after the last one).   So far as I’m concerned, we can’t start whining about this until 2023.

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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

There are 30 teams in MLB.    One all star game every 30 years is par for the course.   There hasn’t been one at Dodger Stadium in 38 years (but they’ll have it in 2020, 40 years after the last one).   So far as I’m concerned, we can’t start whining about this until 2023.

Yeah, but Cito still sucks.

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Manfred is big on talking up expansion.

The Mariners are not happy with the idea of teams in Vancouver or Portland.

The Braves can't  be happy about a team in Charlotte.

The Braves, Reds and Cardinals all will have something to say about a team in Nashville.

TV rights are at issue for all and attendance in some of those markets.

I would think that some owners would want to know where Manfred is going to come up with 48 more major league pitchers for 4 more teams.

The Angels may be a little upset with Manfred for goes after Mike Trout.

 

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14 minutes ago, Frobby said:

There are 30 teams in MLB.    One all star game every 30 years is par for the course.   There hasn’t been one at Dodger Stadium in 38 years (but they’ll have it in 2020, 40 years after the last one).   So far as I’m concerned, we can’t start whining about this until 2023.

Just to elaborate on this, since Baltimore last hosted the all star game, only three teams have hosted twice (or are scheduled to do so):

Pittsburgh: Three Rivers in 1994 and PNC in 2006.

Cleveland: Jacobs Field in 1997 and scheduled in 2019.

Atlanta: Turner Field in 2000 and SunTrust Stadium scheduled in 2021.

The following teams haven’t hosted an all star game since before 1993:

Tampa (never hosted; only became a team in 1998), Toronto (last hosted 1991), Oakland (never hosted since moving to Oakland in 1968), Chicago Cubs (last hosted 1990).

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As of June 16th, MLB attendance was off by 6.5% from 2017.  The tables and charts below are from a Forbes article on MLB's attendance issues with causes for attendance drops and recommendations to fix it.

The article,from july 25th, is a good read and can be found here:  https://www.forbes.com/sites/kpmg/2018/07/25/still-in-their-infancy-ai-algorithms-need-parenting/#59762a7e2fca

 

Rk Team 2017
Ganes
2017 Avg 2018 Avg YoY Diff
(total)
YoY Diff
(per game)
1 Astros 33 29,055 35,333 207,171 6,278
2 Brewers 29 28,753 33,323 132,530 4,570
3 D-Backs 32 22,691 25,832 100,498 3,141
4 Yankees 31 38,838 41,315 76,802 2,477
5 Braves 28 29,307 30,896 44,511 1,590
6 Dodgers 34 44,580 45,843 42,959 1,264
7 Angels 35 36,202 37,074 30,503 872
8 Mets 34 30,421 30,724 10,288 303
9 Rockies 30 35,140 35,378 7,148 238
10 Padres 39 25,138 25,191 2,061 53
11 Twins 34 22,179 22,188 289 8
12 Mariners 32 24,669 24,377 -9,324 -291
13 Cubs 32 38,511 37,866 -20,642 -645
14 Nationals 32 31,257 30,169 -34,818 -1,088
15 Red Sox 34 35,669 34,524 -38,939 -1,145
16 Rays 28 14,907 13,681 -34,336 -1,226
17 Phillies 31 26,916 25,257 -51,449 -1,660
18 Cardinals 33 43,034 41,328 -56,305 -1,706
19 A's 34 17,980 15,510 -83,962 -2,469
20 Giants 30 41,650 38,835 -84,448 -2,815
21 Indians 31 21,988 19,079 -90,204 -2,910
22 Reds 34 22,063 18,746 -112,798 -3,318
23 White Sox 29 21,051 16,906 -120,206 -4,145
24 Rangers 36 32,349 27,863 -161,494 -4,486
25 Royals 31 26,036 20,057 -185,357 -5,979
26 Pirates 33 23,112 16,233 -227,000 -6,879
27 Tigers 37 28,460 21,067 -273,519 -7,392
28 Orioles 28 28,000 19,880 -227,353 -8,120
29 Marlins 31 20,490 10,697 -303,571 -9,793
30 Blue Jays 35 38,687 27,269 -399,611 -11,417
  Total 970 29,402 27,483 -1,860,576 -1,918

Below shows total attendance and per-game average ranking as of 6/16/18:

RK TEAM TOTAL AVG % of capacity
1 LA Dodgers 1,755,352 46,193 82.50
2 NY Yankees 1,506,444 41,845 84.30
3 St. Louis 1,582,435 41,643 94.70
4 San Francisco 1,165,058 38,835 92.70
5 Chicago Cubs 1,211,714 37,866 92.00
6 LA Angels 1,297,581 37,073 81.70
7 Colorado 1,061,340 35,378 70.10
8 Houston 1,165,990 35,333 86.30
9 Boston 1,173,820 34,524 92.10
10 Milwaukee 1,160,691 34,137 81.50
11 Atlanta 1,035,668 31,383 76.40
12 NY Mets 1,044,602 30,723 73.50
13 Washington 965,392 30,168 72.70
14 Toronto 1,020,105 28,336 57.50
15 Texas 1,056,986 27,815 56.60
16 Arizona 990,132 26,056 53.60
17 Seattle 967,922 25,471 53.20
18 San Diego 960,909 25,287 62.50
19 Philadelphia 845,090 24,855 56.90
20 Minnesota 754,384 22,860 61.60
21 Detroit 846,613 21,708 52.60
22 Baltimore 659,549 20,610 45.40
23 Cleveland 654,356 20,448 47.10
24 Kansas City 715,399 20,439 53.90
25 Cincinnati 637,359 18,745 44.30
26 Pittsburgh 586,188 17,240 44.90
27 Chicago White Sox 598,340 17,095 42.10
28 Oakland 598,809 15,354 43.80
29 Tampa Bay 415,833 13,413 39.40
30 Miami 359,367 10,267 27.40

Yearly total MLB attendance from 1995 through 2017

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Total attendance numbers for Major League Baseball from 1995 to 2017FORBES RESEARCH, SOURCE MLB

Year ML Total % (+/-)
1995 50,469,236 0.90%
1996 60,097,381 19.10%
1997 63,168,689 5.10%
1998 70,372,221 11.40%
1999 70,139,380 -0.30%
2000 72,635,095 3.60%
2001 72,267,544 -0.50%
2002 67,859,176 -6.10%
2003 67,568,397 -0.40%
2004 73,022,969 8.10%
2005 74,702,034 2.30%
2006 76,042,787 1.80%
2007 79,503,175 4.60%
2008 78,588,004 -1.20%
2009 73,367,659 -6.60%
2010 72,568,780 -1.10%
2011 73,415,359 1.20%
2012 74,859,268 1.97%
2013 74,028,227 -1.11%
2014 73,739,622 -0.39%
2015 73,760,020 0.03%
2016 73,159,044 -0.81%
2017 72,670,423 -0.67%

Source: Major League Baseball

 

           
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             

 

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1 hour ago, wildcard said:

Manfred is big on talking up expansion.

The Mariners are not happy with the idea of teams in Vancouver or Portland.

The Braves can't  be happy about a team in Charlotte.

The Braves, Reds and Cardinals all will have something to say about a team in Nashville.

TV rights are at issue for all and attendance in some of those markets.

I would think that some owners would want to know where Manfred is going to come up with 48 more major league pitchers for 4 more teams.

The Angels may be a little upset with Manfred for goes after Mike Trout.

 

Those teams just need to chill out.  A team can move 30 miles away,sign an agreement, wait until they make the playoffs and just back out of the agreement.  What’s the big deal?

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6 minutes ago, VaBird1 said:

Those teams just need to chill out.  A team can move 30 miles away,sign an agreement, wait until they make the playoffs and just back out of the agreement.  What’s the big deal?

Not what happened, but fantasize away.    The MASN deal called for the TV rights fees to be renegotiated every five years.    It so happens that the first period for renegotiation was 2012-16.    The negotiations happened before the 2012 season was played and the parties did not reach agreement, so they took the dispute to arbitration just as their agreement provided.   So, it had nothing to do with the Nats breaking the agreement and the timing had nothing to do with the Nats being in the playoffs.

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