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49 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

It sounds more like It’s PA’s son that is changing things. He’s brought Brooks and Eddie back. He had dinner with AJ. He’s letting DD actually be a GM. The in season moves show what a real GM is (DD) and what a pretender Brady is. Let DD work.

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48 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

I'm sure Brady will have some sort of role on the team.   I'm fine with that...I just want it to be under the GM or VP of Operations.   I don't want him "freelancing".

 

Can we make him the international director of scouting...in Siberia?

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28 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

That's about it. 

We've been whining for a long time about the lack international signings.  So DD announces it and then everyone's all of a sudden pretty cavalier in regards to who's left.

At least they're focusing on the right things and hopefully will be more prepared for next year.  If they get a few this year, that's fine.

I'll get excited when they hire more scouts and develop more infrastructure.

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42 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

Listen, Mesa would be amazeballs but some signings are better than zero. Progress!

The Orioles HAVE signed international players in the past.  They field a DSL team every year and for a while there were even fielding 2.  It's just that the guys they "sign" are pretty much non-prospects that other clubs have already picked over.

I appreciate the optimism, but as others have said most of the meaningful talent from this year is probably gone.  Going to be a while before we see a real difference here.

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53 minutes ago, bpilktree67 said:

Those saying well no one is left anyway let’s look at the top prospects right now and where they were listed when signed,

vlad 2 7th in 2015

Jimenez 1st 2013

Tatis 30th in 2015

Robles not ranked in 2013

Alex Reyes not ranked 2012

Francisco Mejia not ranked 2012

Willy Ades not ranked 2012

Six to Sanchez not ranked 2015

Luis Robert number 1 2016

 

so of the 9 guys in the top 25 in mlb prospect ranking there are two number 1s  a number 7 a number 30 and five guys not in top 30.  

This is truth.  Folks who think the prospects available at this point represent a barren opportunity are wrong.  So a good number of the top guys are gone - there is plenty of opportunity out there - one just has to find it.  At least, as Moose says, we appear to be making progress here.  It's going to take a few years IMO before we sign our share of the top 150-250 international prospects, but at least we are taking steps to get there.  

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55 minutes ago, bpilktree67 said:

Those saying well no one is left anyway let’s look at the top prospects right now and where they were listed when signed,

vlad 2 7th in 2015

Jimenez 1st 2013

Tatis 30th in 2015

Robles not ranked in 2013

Alex Reyes not ranked 2012

Francisco Mejia not ranked 2012

Willy Ades not ranked 2012

Six to Sanchez not ranked 2015

Luis Robert number 1 2016

 

so of the 9 guys in the top 25 in mlb prospect ranking there are two number 1s  a number 7 a number 30 and five guys not in top 30.  

That’s a good point in general, but the Orioles don’t have the scouting or infrastructure/organization to find the diamonds in the rough right now. That’s going to take some time to ramp up.

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5 minutes ago, Cy Bundy said:

The could hire a few people who know the talent down there in about 10 seconds.

Players from next year’s cycle already have deals in place, so maybe those people could help them with some 2020 signings. 

They are competing with 29 other teams, so the idea that there are “a few people” who could identify available players who are interesting but not deemed top talents who the 29 other teams haven’t signed kind of seems ridiculous to me. What have these people been doing? Un-employed? Working for other teams (in which case the players they recommended would likely already be signed)?

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7 hours ago, glenn__davis said:

The Orioles HAVE signed international players in the past.  They field a DSL team every year and for a while there were even fielding 2.  It's just that the guys they "sign" are pretty much non-prospects that other clubs have already picked over.

I appreciate the optimism, but as others have said most of the meaningful talent from this year is probably gone.  Going to be a while before we see a real difference here.

We’re just going to do our usual signings except the state controlled MASN media will hype it more. It’s really sad that the top 80 guys have signed and we didn’t get any. That would be like not drafting in the first three rounds. 

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6 hours ago, Cy Bundy said:

Soto wasn’t highly coveted and Sixto was considered nothing when he signed for 35k.

I get that, but again, the Orioles have signed international (Latin American specifically) free agents before, this is not really news.  News will be when they make an actually make a financial commitment of consequence. 

They didn't sign anyone last year, but they have before. DD's statement does not mean much.  

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6 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

Players from next year’s cycle already have deals in place, so maybe those people could help them with some 2020 signings. 

They are competing with 29 other teams, so the idea that there are “a few people” who could identify available players who are interesting but not deemed top talents who the 29 other teams haven’t signed kind of seems ridiculous to me. What have these people been doing? Un-employed? Working for other teams (in which case the players they recommended would likely already be signed)?

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