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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I would not put Brady in my top 10 favorite Orioles.    But among position players, he arguably was one of the ten best, or at least had one of the ten best Oriole careers.  6th in games played, 4th in plate appearances, 4th in runs, 5th in hits, 6th in total bases, 5th in doubles, 2nd in triples, 8th in homers, 7th in RBI, 2nd in walks, 1st in stolen bases.   He’s an inner circle Orioles Hall of Famer.

That’s really got nothing to do with whether he should be retained as an executive.    Either he has something to contribute, or he doesn’t.    And he’ll either get in the way of what Elias wants to do, or he’ll help.    I trust Elias to figure that out.  

He was an excellent Orioles player.  I agree.  As to his working productively for Mike Elias in the new order (and I am assuming he reports directly and is supervised directly and only by Mike Elias?) ,  I shall wait to see how it unfolds the first time a big time, controversial decision gets made in the new regime as to who supports whom to whom. 

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7 hours ago, tntoriole said:

Yes, which enables those who see Peter as the only decision maker to give passes to everyone else.  But I suspect Dan might be a little more forthcoming about the inner workings, including the influence of Brady and Buck,  if he is out of work for awhile. 

We shall see, but, mainly, as I have said, I just want a clean slate for a new era and to me that does not include Brady Anderson as a VP. 

We know for a fact that Angelos was negotiating directly with Davis’ agent. 

He must’ve also been involved with Trumbo because it appeared in that situation that we were also  negotiating with ourselves.

Im not a big Duquette advocate but he’s not an idiot. And I don’t believe he negotiated either deal much less advocated for those players at the prices we paid.

The one positive if you were the GM is that Angelos was actually spending money. The problem was that he only spent it on our free agent players.

Cobb is probably the single exception and even with him the market was in his favor

 

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3 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

We know for a fact that Angelos was negotiating directly with Davis’ agent. 

He must’ve also been involved with Trumbo because it appeared in that situation that we were also  negotiating with ourselves.

Im not a big Duquette advocate but he’s not an idiot. And I don’t believe he negotiated either deal much less advocated for those players at the prices we paid.

The one positive if you were the GM is that Angelos was actually spending money. The problem was that he only spent it on our free agent players.

Cobb is probably the single exception and even with him the market was in his favor

 

So do you think Brady was for or against the Davis signing?  I think he was for it at the time. 

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1 minute ago, tntoriole said:

So do you think Brady was for or against the Davis signing?  I think he was for it at the time. 

As is true with more posters here than are willing to admit it.

Plus the casual fans who make up the majority of the fans that attend the games.

I have no idea what Brady’s opinion was ... but I don’t believe he cared either way.

If he wouldn’t listen to Pat Gillick or Duquette who was he going to listen to?

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2 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

As is true with more posters here than are willing to admit it.

Plus the casual fans who make up the majority of the fans that attend the games.

I have no idea what Brady’s opinion was ... but I don’t believe he cared either way.

If he wouldn’t listen to Pat Gillick or Duquette who was he going to listen to?

I did not think the Orioles would or should sign CHris Davis, but I never imagined the debacle that it became. I guess I should have figured that he would stop using. 

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1 minute ago, weams said:

I did not think the Orioles would or should sign CHris Davis, but I never imagined the debacle that it became. I guess I should have figured that he would stop using. 

Using what?  The gym?

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6 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

So do you think Brady was for or against the Davis signing?  I think he was for it at the time. 

 

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

As is true with more posters here than are willing to admit it.

Plus the casual fans who make up the majority of the fans that attend the games.

I have no idea what Brady’s opinion was ... but I don’t believe he cared either way.

If he wouldn’t listen to Pat Gillick or Duquette who was he going to listen to?

A slight majority of posters were in favor of the deal.   Happy to say I wasn’t one of them, though I wasn’t in the “absolutely terrible” camp.   

It’s pretty speculative to guess what Brady’s opinion was and what input he actually had.    

 

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14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Using what?  The gym?

His PED, whatever caused him to fail miserably.  He is smaller with less bat speed.  And his eyes don't track the ball. Whatever helped him do that. 

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1 minute ago, weams said:

His PED, whatever caused him to fail miserably.  He is smaller with less bat speed.  And his eyes don't track the ball. Whatever helped him do that. 

I think his new meds have him so blissed out that he just doesn't have the "want to." You can see it in his face. #buckspeak

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2 minutes ago, weams said:

His PED, whatever caused him to fail miserably.  He is smaller with less bat speed.  And his eyes don't track the ball. Whatever helped him do that. 

I'm in camp he just stopped putting in the work.

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18 minutes ago, Frobby said:

 

A slight majority of posters were in favor of the deal.   Happy to say I wasn’t one of them, though I wasn’t in the “absolutely terrible” camp.   

It’s pretty speculative to guess what Brady’s opinion was and what input he actually had.    

 

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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm in camp he just stopped putting in the work.

Did he ever apply for a therapeutic use exemption since? 

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22 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

As is true with more posters here than are willing to admit it.

Plus the casual fans who make up the majority of the fans that attend the games.

I have no idea what Brady’s opinion was ... but I don’t believe he cared either way.

If he wouldn’t listen to Pat Gillick or Duquette who was he going to listen to?

You say that you have no idea what his opinion was, but then say you do know..i.e. you believe Brady didn’t care either way.  How do you know he didn’t have an opinion about it?   We are all guessers with opinions. 

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