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39 minutes ago, weams said:

The Orioles will shrink, not expand, the current 79 million dollar payroll.

Well, the payroll is going to shrink at the deadline when the O's trade veterans.  Just like it did this past season.

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My main reaction here is....is Yusniel Diaz now a candidate for International League MVP?  I kind of imagined him breaking in next summer, but now I'm not sure.

Unlike Mullins whose 7th year wasn't worth worrying about, Yusniel I hope is.  On a macro level, it is kind of like is a 1-year $5M commitment to some Denard Span type a good investment in buying club control of Yusniel Diaz's 2026 season?

It'll be good 25-man roster theater if Diaz (or Hays even) has one of those rookie Nick Markakis springs.

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5 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Well, the payroll is going to shrink at the deadline when the O's trade veterans.  Just like it did this past season.

Or before! To save even more money!. There is no one that will bring back anything of note! Bundy is even expensive!

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3 hours ago, Frobby said:

Respectfully, I think Elias has signaled in multiple ways that he’s not going to spend a lot of money on free agents this year, and that he won’t be looking at them until late in the winter.    This is a long term project and Elias isn’t going to be spending much money on older players right now.   

Another way to look at it is maybe Elias is willing to take on a contract for a year or two as long as he can acquired prospects along with it?

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36 minutes ago, OrioleDog said:

My main reaction here is....is Yusniel Diaz now a candidate for International League MVP?  I kind of imagined him breaking in next summer, but now I'm not sure.

Unlike Mullins whose 7th year wasn't worth worrying about, Yusniel I hope is.  On a macro level, it is kind of like is a 1-year $5M commitment to some Denard Span type a good investment in buying club control of Yusniel Diaz's 2026 season?

It'll be good 25-man roster theater if Diaz (or Hays even) has one of those rookie Nick Markakis springs.

Mullins was drafted in 2015.   His 7th year will be 2021.  Are you psychic?

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Haven’t read through the entire thread, so if this was mentioned, you can disregard....

Would you do a trade for Puig?  He is erratic but does bring excitement.  Dodgers seem to want to move him.  Not sure what it would take - Cobb?  Something more?  I think he’s the type of guy who kids would go to see at OPACY. He could help the team with their identity issue. 

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Just now, WarehouseChatter said:

Haven’t read through the entire thread, so if this was mentioned, you can disregard....

Would you do a trade for Puig?  He is erratic but does bring excitement.  Dodgers seem to want to move him.  Not sure what it would take - Cobb?  Something more?  I think he’s the type of guy who kids would go to see at OPACY. He could help the team with their identity issue. 

Puig just turned 28 years old. He's no more a part of this teams future than Adam Jones. If the Orioles make any trades they have to be getting back prospects not aged, underachieving phenoms. 

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12 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Another way to look at it is maybe Elias is willing to take on a contract for a year or two as long as he can acquired prospects along with it?

I agree with this. Elias is looking towards the future not the present. 

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9 hours ago, wildcard said:

Elias just upgraded the team's infield defense by acquiring Ruiz, Martin and Jackson.   But his outfield defense is still subpar.   He is probably looking to move in trade either Trumbo or Mancini  to upgrade the outfield defense.  He is willing to take on some salary to do that.  So if he can move Trumbo's 13.5m salary he would take on a player that has a 16m salary.  That is a tough deal to find.

More like he could trade Mancini for a right fielder and take on a few million in salary.  Trade Mancini's 600k for a more mobile right fielder with a 3m salary.     The outfield would then look like Stewart in left, Mullins/Rickard platoon in CF and a new right fielder.   The acquired RF has to have offense equal or better that Mancini and better defense. 

If they can make that trade now then in July they may be able to move Trumbo at DH and promote Mountcastle to DH.

This also gives Hays and Diaz more time in the minors.  If one or both are ready  by mid season, they could also improve the team defense.    Stewart could find himself on the bench or in the minors to make room.

The ultimate  goal is to get to a outfield of Diaz in LF,  Mullins/ McKenna  in CF, Hays in RF but the O's need some better defense in the outfield until those guys are ready.

That is my guess.

I don't get it. Why do you want Rickard on the O's 2019? He should never even be considered for a platoon player. Bring in some new guys. 2018 is behind us. Take a leap forward. IMO

 

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10 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Mullins was drafted in 2015.   His 7th year will be 2021.  Are you psychic?

He’s talking about ML service time, not the time since he was drafted.

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2 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Puig just turned 28 years old. He's no more a part of this teams future than Adam Jones. If the Orioles make any trades they have to be getting back prospects not aged, underachieving phenoms. 

I disagree.  We still need butts in seats.  We still need an identity.  Look, I long for new blood as well, but we need some veteran help and Puig is exciting.

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12 hours ago, section18 said:

Posted 1 hour ago on mlb trade Rumors;

Joe Trezza of mlb.com says even though the Orioles are in a rebuild they are "open to taking on a salary" in order to acquire OF help. They sought outfielders throughout the winter meetings.

Which free agent outfielders should we be interested in? He doesn't say if we were looking to trade for an OF.

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AL Notes: A’s, Tulo, Lowrie, Astros, BoSox, O’s

By Connor Byrne | December 13, 2018 at 8:20pm CDT

The latest on a few American League clubs…

  • The Athletics have come up as a speculative fit for free-agent shortstop Troy Tulowitzki, but the two sides haven’t spoken to this point, Jon Heyman of Fancred tweets. If signed, Tulowitzki could be a factor at the keystone for Oakland, which may see starting second baseman Jed Lowrie depart in free agency. As of now, it appears “unlikely” the Athletics will re-sign Lowrie, Jane Lee of MLB.com writes. Lowrie would be a tough loss for the A’s, considering he was one of the majors’ most valuable second basemen from 2017-18.
  • Meanwhile, despite potentially losing Tony Sipp in free agency, the division-rival Astros aren’t likely to shop at the top of the market for left-handed relievers, per Jake Kaplan of The Athletic (subscription required). Rather, the Astros seem “comfortable” with a pair of in-house southpaws – Framber Valdez and Cionel Perez – as well as a cast of righty relievers who are capable of getting lefty hitters out. It’s not clear whether Brad Peacock will remain among that group of righties in 2019, though, as Kaplan relays that he’ll enter spring training as a starter. Peacock made 21 starts two years ago, but that number plummeted to one in 2018, when he came out of the Astros’ bullpen 60 times.
  • The Red Sox lost Joe Kelly to the Dodgers in free agency and are also in danger of bidding adieu to Craig Kimbrel, but it doesn’t seem they’re urgently searching for relief help. Instead, the reigning World Series champions are planning to “wait out” the market until a reliever falls to them for a palatable cost, Evan Drellich of NBC Sports Boston reports. That makes it seem even less likely they’ll re-sign Kimbrel, whose reported asking price is exorbitant, though Drellich hasn’t closed the door on the two sides continuing their union.
  • Although they’re in a rebuild, the Orioles are “open to taking on a salary” in order to acquire outfield help, according to Joe Trezza of MLB.com. The O’s sought outfielders throughout the Winter Meetings, Trezza adds. With 0.1 fWAR, the team’s outfield finished 29th in the majors in that department last season, and its best regular – Adam Jones, who was below average in his own right – is now a free agent.

Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. Your entire thread is about Trezza's comment, yet you didn't actually link to Trezza's story (or even read it, apparently). Why not post his story instead of the mlbtraderumors blurb that only has secondhand information? The mlbtraderumors blurb even has a link to it; you were literally one click away.

For reference, here's Trezza's story, and here's what he says about the outfield:

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Behind closed doors, the Orioles spent time this week scouring the trade market for outfield help, and they're open to taking on a salary to acquire it. They're likely to continue testing those waters rather than engaging the free-agent market, at least until later in the offseason. Baltimore's outfield consists of Joey Rickard, Cedric Mullins and Trey Mancini.

 

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