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January 15 - Current FA former Oriole team still better than our current lineup?

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C Wieters

1b Reynolds

2b Flaherty

SS Machado

3b Valencia

OF Jones

OF Markakis

OF Gentry

DH Parra

SP Gallardo

SP Miley

SP M. Gonzalez 

SP Hellickson

SP Tillman

etc....

 

I don’t even know what to think about my Orioles anymore.  I guess I am really glad they turned a page.

Yuck.

 

i kind of wish I could run simulation games of them head to head

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9 hours ago, AceKing said:

C Wieters

1b Reynolds

2b Flaherty

SS Machado

3b Valencia

OF Jones

OF Markakis

OF Gentry

DH Parra

SP Gallardo

SP Miley

SP M. Gonzalez 

SP Hellickson

SP Tillman

etc....

 

I don’t even know what to think about my Orioles anymore.  I guess I am really glad they turned a page.

Yuck.

 

i kind of wish I could run simulation games of them head to head

That would be one of the worst teams ever assembled. 

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10 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

I updated using Steamer projections equalizing for 600 PA/200 IP for SP.

There were better Orioles projections in some cases than the current Orioles listed, like Dean Kremer and Mountcastle, but I didn't list them because they definitely won't be on the opening day roster.

The end result is that even with the huge upgrade Machado would provide, the team would still be worse with the players you listed. The current players are 1.4 fWAR better based on statistical projections for 2019. 

 

Thanks for crunching the numbers, but that’s actually pretty remarkably close...

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I absolutely hate Free agency in baseball anymore they drag this out longer and longer each year.  Last year it was because the teams wanted to get under the caps or were saving money for this year where they could all spend freely.  I haven't been following it as much as I used to because I know the Orioles won't be doing much but as a fan of a team and organizations they have to fix this.  You have NFL and NBA that is a short period and a barrage of signings with the top players.   MLB and players drag it for ever and leave the organizations in limbo and also hurts ticket sales.  Teams start selling season packages and yet we have lots of guys still not signed.  I wouldn't want to be a sales rep trying to sell plans for a team like Washington the White Sox just to name a few.  Yes we are checking to see if you want to continue you season package this is what we are doing to improve the team and can't even let the fans know who their top players are going to be.  

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I am sure this is true of most teams.  Only a few players are free agents each year and a lot of players have already signed.  A lot of guys are free agents at this point because no other team wants them.  Britton and Schoop already been signed.  But probably Machado, Jones, and Markakis as free agents are better than most teams former player free agents still on the market. 

Really I am not sure what the point of this is.  Maybe compare former players to current players. 

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2 hours ago, atomic said:

I am sure this is true of most teams.  Only a few players are free agents each year and a lot of players have already signed.  A lot of guys are free agents at this point because no other team wants them.  Britton and Schoop already been signed.  But probably Machado, Jones, and Markakis as free agents are better than most teams former player free agents still on the market. 

Really I am not sure what the point of this is.  Maybe compare former players to current players. 

There is no real point I guess, other than to illustrate the ineptitude’s of the past and maybe to reminisce some.  I don’t miss many of those guys....some more than others obviously, but I can see many of them being very inexpensive when they do decide to sign...

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7 minutes ago, AceKing said:

There is no real point I guess, other than to illustrate the ineptitude’s of the past and maybe to reminisce some.  I don’t miss many of those guys....some more than others obviously, but I can see many of them being very inexpensive when they do decide to sign...

I don't see that as  ineptitude of the past. Most of those guys were productive at one time.  Every team has former players who's careers end or become role players.  Tillman, Wieters, Markakis, Machado, and Jones were all outstanding players at one time.  Really you have the core of a playoff team there.  

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