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6 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

I was never a big fan of Fred, but I do appreciate the affection people have for him being a local guy from Baltimore.   Chuck Thompson, Jon Miller, and Joe Angel are the ones I admire the most.    You can tell Jim Hunter loves the Orioles, but he is often insufferable.   We're left with waiting for the Orioles to announce their plans for 2019.

Manfra would have done better with a script in front of him in studio. Despite his mellifluous voice, he was a poor extemporaneous speaker. For those who thought it was difficult to follow Angel during live action, most listeners waited on the crowd's reaction when Fred was on the mic to provide the first indication of what happened on the field. Manfra would finally explain to listeners what had happened when the count sat at 2-1 to the following batter. 

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A lot of radio guys sound like Stephen Hawking. Whoever we get needs to have a good voice, be emotionally involved, Effectively describe not just the action, but the strategy, and provide history and anecdotes as well. The Rangers’ Eric Nadel is probably my favorite all-time radio announcer. He’s a brilliant baseball historian, quite funny, and has an excellent radio voice. I also enjoy Gary Thorne quite a bit as well, And I would frankly rather have him on radio that on TV.

I don’t care who they bring in, as long as it’s a radio guy, who knows how to BE a radio guy. Remember we’re listening to the guy, and not just the game.

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1 minute ago, Beef Supreme said:

Manfra would have done better with a script in front of him in studio. Despite his mellifluous voice, he was a poor extemporaneous speaker. For those who thought it was difficult to follow Angel during live action, most listeners waited on the crowd's reaction when Fred was on the mic to provide the first indication of what happened on the field. Manfra would finally explain to listeners what had happened when the count sat at 2-1 to the following batter. 

I feel the same. Enjoyed his voice, but he was frustratingly bad at play-by-play. It was like he thought the audience was watching the game on TV while listening to him. 

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Baseball and football play-by-play seems to be near death these days. I try to tune into games while I'm traveling, etc., and most of the play-by-play folks pale in comparison to previous generations. I'm sure the listening audience is a tiny, tiny fraction of what it was 20 years ago, much less 30 years ago. I am sure the vast majority of good young broadcasters are on TV. Radio game calling is definitely a dying art, with a few exceptions here and there. 

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Just now, Ohfan67 said:

I feel the same. Enjoyed his voice, but he was frustratingly bad at play-by-play. It was like Manfra thought the audience was watching the game on TV while listening to him. 

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29 minutes ago, wildcard said:

No, do you think its the radio station that decides who broadcasts Oriole games?

I don't know. 

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17 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

I was never a big fan of Fred, but I do appreciate the affection people have for him being a local guy from Baltimore.   Chuck Thompson, Jon Miller, and Joe Angel are the ones I admire the most.    You can tell Jim Hunter loves the Orioles, but he is often insufferable.   We're left with waiting for the Orioles to announce their plans for 2019.

I remember a few years when Jon Miller and Brooks were doing games together. Absolute Heaven!

Another team I liked were Brother Lo and I can't remember the PbP guy's name. Wasn't Michael Reghi altho I liked him too. See You Later!

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3 hours ago, weams said:

Well, that's no good.  It didn't get much better than the old days of Jon Miller and Joe Angel, and by himself Joe makes you want to listen to the radio over the MASN broadcast. 

Remember when there was no 7-second delay to protect the delicate ears of the children and you could watch the broadcast while listening to the radio?  I used to do that with both the Orioles and Virginia Tech football. 

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10 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

Manfra would have done better with a script in front of him in studio. Despite his mellifluous voice, he was a poor extemporaneous speaker. For those who thought it was difficult to follow Angel during live action, most listeners waited on the crowd's reaction when Fred was on the mic to provide the first indication of what happened on the field. Manfra would finally explain to listeners what had happened when the count sat at 2-1 to the following batter. 

Manfra was painfully slow! 😛

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3 minutes ago, scOtt said:

I remember a few years when Jon Miller and Brooks were doing games together. Absolute Heaven!

Another team I liked were Brother Lo and I can't remember the PbP guy's name. wasn't Michael Reghi altho I liked him too. See You Later!

Mel Proctor worked HTS with Brother Lo,  classic TV.  Michael Reg-hi, with his noticeably fake toupee,  was another insufferable.

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2 minutes ago, scOtt said:

I remember a few years when Jon Miller and Brooks were doing games together. Absolute Heaven!

Another team I liked were Brother Lo and I can't remember the PbP guy's name. wasn't Michael Reghi altho I liked him too. See You Later!

Mel Proctor and John Lowenstein on HTS.  That was something special.

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1 minute ago, TonySoprano said:

Mel Proctor worked HTS with Brother Lo.  Michael Reg-hi, with his noticeably fake toupee,  was another insufferable.

Mel Proctor, yeah!

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11 minutes ago, Philip said:

A lot of radio guys sound like Stephen Hawking. Whoever we get needs to have a good voice, be emotionally involved, Effectively describe not just the action, but the strategy, and provide history and anecdotes as well. The Rangers’ Eric Nadel is probably my favorite all-time radio announcer. He’s a brilliant baseball historian, quite funny, and has an excellent radio voice. I also enjoy Gary Thorne quite a bit as well, And I would frankly rather have him on radio that on TV.

I don’t care who they bring in, as long as it’s a radio guy, who knows how to BE a radio guy. Remember we’re listening to the guy, and not just the game.

You should have heard Ken Levine! It was bad enough that his nasally whine forced listeners to turn the treble to its lowest possible setting. But by June, he was already complaining incessantly about how hard the travel was.  And it didn't stop until he quit at the end of the year. 

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