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26 minutes ago, Frobby said:

He still might have them in social groups, even if not in day care.    In any event, I haven’t really noticed him getting sick a lot, other than being allergic to hitting a baseball.  

Has he struck out looking in BP yet? Asking for a friend.

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6 hours ago, Malike said:

Sorry kids, Daddy can't hug you or tuck you in tonight because you might get me sick. That would go over well in most households. :P

And yet, it is surprising how many of the clubhouse epidemics steam from that type of contact. The daycares are an incubator for modern plagues. 

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18 hours ago, tntoriole said:

The other thing about Davis interviews is that he always finds some new slant on not taking responsibility for his awful performance.  “People criticize me and I have learned how to deal with that reality”  is a long way from  “My performance was historically awful, I just really sucked and I have to do much better to even deserve to be out on the field.”   He never says anything remotely like that. It is always about the supposed work he is putting in,  getting back to the player he was before, blah, blah, blah. 

He really thinks he is still the guy who asked for 200 million -  he does. 

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20 hours ago, Otter said:

Not saying this to criticize or pile on, but does it seem like Davis gets sick a lot more than other players?  I know he has young kids, maybe he needs to get better at avoiding their germs during the season.😉  I know I hardly ever got sick until I had kids...now I get sick from them all the time...

I was thinking the same thing. I remember quite a few Roch Twitter posts over the years that Davis was sick and couldn't play. I don't remember seeing nearly as many for any other player. 

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3 hours ago, tntoriole said:

Not me...what I really want is for him to follow Eddie Murray’s example  and just shut up and play. 

Eddie always did. He had real talent to spare. One of the best switch hitters of all time. 

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7 hours ago, TheOtherRipken said:

Dude no. Now you are just piling on CD to pile on him. There’s a lot to complain about with CD but he absolutely owns up. Just a few examples, there are more. Plenty of players wouldn’t take the time to say these things in interviews.

From August interview:

“Mechanically this year I’ve gone back so many times to things I’ve done in the past that have proven to work and I don’t know if it’s age, I don’t know if it’s just a combination of things, but it has been a long year,”

From September interview:

"I have no clue what I'm doing at the plate," says the 32-year-old Davis

 "Failure just follows me around daily," he says.

“I just don’t understand,” he said, his words muffled through his hands. “How can I go out there every day and just not succeed? It’s baffling to me.”

From a post-season interview:

"Obviously the strikeouts are up and the weak contact, whatever you want to call it, into the shift...," Davis said.

 

 

 

We just disagree.  Even in the interviews you selectively picked from, I still hear somebody explaining away the performance.  "...it has been a long year".  Yes, for those of us who had to pay good money to watch this garbage, ...not quite so long a year for somebody making 20 million. 

"Failure just follows me around daily."  This again does not sound like a personal responsibility statement.  It sounds like he attributes his problems are due to the black clouds of fate rather than his work ethic.  

"Obviously the strikeouts are up and the weak contact, whatever you want call it."   Again, he is projecting it onto the media, the fans "whatever WE want to call it."  Well, what I want to call it is garbage and unwillingness to change.    But it is certainly not a personal responsibility statement..."the strikeouts are up"  IS NOT  "I am striking out too much."   "the weak contact"  is not "I am not hitting the ball solidly."

It may seem to be splitting hairs, but I believe he has gotten his guaranteed millions and while he does well in putting on public airs about changing, doing better, but, in reality, remains far too satisfied as many big contract players have become once they sign their deals. 

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2 hours ago, weams said:

He really thinks he is still the guy who asked for 200 million -  he does. 

I wouldn't give that man a dollar. 

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3 hours ago, weams said:

He really thinks he is still the guy who asked for 200 million -  he does. 

You want him to think he’s still capable of that.    It’s for the rest of us to think he’s not.   

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6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

You want him to think he’s still capable of that.    It’s for the rest of us to think he’s not.   

Yeah, I gotta agree with brother Frobby here.  Even though we think Davis should be completely broken, humbled and saying all the right things (newsflash, people here still wouldn't be satisfied if he were, they'd find other things to harp on), part of what makes an athlete great is the fact that they think they're great.  Especially in a game where you're headed to the Hall of Fame if you fail 7 times out of 10.  

I don't care that Davis thinks he's still got it, or that he's a fix or two away from 40+ homers, we should all hope for that.   We all want that.  

But he needs to be confident and think that he can still do it to get there.  Even if we don't.  

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15 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Yeah, I gotta agree with brother Frobby here.  Even though we think Davis should be completely broken, humbled and saying all the right things (newsflash, people here still wouldn't be satisfied if he were, they'd find other things to harp on), part of what makes an athlete great is the fact that they think they're great.  Especially in a game where you're headed to the Hall of Fame if you fail 7 times out of 10.  

I don't care that Davis thinks he's still got it, or that he's a fix or two away from 40+ homers, we should all hope for that.   We all want that.  

But he needs to be confident and think that he can still do it to get there.  Even if we don't.  

Despite everything, if he’s even a scintilla better than last year then he’s almost guaranteed to pass the 300 hr milestone (16 hr last year, sitting at 283). Only 147 men have done that. I’d say it’s more likely than not that he ends up in the top-100 all time (339 is the line currently). I don’t think it’s crazy for someone who is able to do that as a baseball player to be confident in their abilities, recent failures or struggles aside. 

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Just now, BohKnowsBmore said:

Despite everything, if he’s even a scintilla better than last year then he’s almost guaranteed to pass the 300 hr milestone (16 hr last year, sitting at 283). Only 147 men have done that. I’d say it’s more likely than not that he ends up in the top-100 all time (339 is the line currently). I don’t think it’s crazy for someone who is able to do that as a baseball player to be confident in their abilities, recent failures or struggles aside. 

I hope he is, I just don't see how.  Maybe he's a little better but...even a little better, he's still most likely sub 0.0 WAR.  

I'd like to be wrong, I think he ends up short of that 339 mark.  I think he's going to be just as bad as last year, maybe even a little worse.  If that's the case, he can't be on the team headed into July and no one else picks him up.

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4 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

Despite everything, if he’s even a scintilla better than last year then he’s almost guaranteed to pass the 300 hr milestone (16 hr last year, sitting at 283). Only 147 men have done that. I’d say it’s more likely than not that he ends up in the top-100 all time (339 is the line currently). I don’t think it’s crazy for someone who is able to do that as a baseball player to be confident in their abilities, recent failures or struggles aside. 

I think it is less than 50/50 that Davis gets to 339 homers.    But we’ll see.     

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I think it is less than 50/50 that Davis gets to 339 homers.    But we’ll see.     

I think it is only 50/50 he gets to 300.

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Just now, Frobby said:

I think it is less than 50/50 that Davis gets to 339 homers.    But we’ll see.     

There’s this thing we do where big time exceeding expectations is bound for negative regression, but shockingly bad is the new normal despite any career track record. I wouldn’t bet he’s good again, but I think finding a way to have three more meh (not good) seasons averaging 20 bombs is a decent mid range projection. The challenge I guess would be finding the opportunity, but we’re paying him anyway and he won’t be blocking anyone as a DH against RHB next season, so I think there’s at least two years of probable at bats. 

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3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I hope he is, I just don't see how.  Maybe he's a little better but...even a little better, he's still most likely sub 0.0 WAR.  

I'd like to be wrong, I think he ends up short of that 339 mark.  I think he's going to be just as bad as last year, maybe even a little worse.  If that's the case, he can't be on the team headed into July and no one else picks him up.

I vote he’ll be a little better than last year.    Which in a way is the worst place for him to be.   That tempts the team to hold on in case he keeps improving, while still harboring a sub-replacement player.   

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