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3 minutes ago, TheThinkingOriole said:

Awesome? 15 Fridays in a row have had rain in the Baltimore Area. Of those 15 weekends, there has been rain on Saturday and/or Sunday. 

And plenty of working people get up at 5 a.m.

Some folks like the rain.

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15 minutes ago, TheThinkingOriole said:

Awesome? 15 Fridays in a row have had rain in the Baltimore Area. Of those 15 weekends, there has been rain on Saturday and/or Sunday. 

And plenty of working people get up at 5 a.m.

I am not sure where you have been but the weather has been gorgeous.  If you are complaining about the weather this year you are just a complainer.  Compare the weather to any other April.  We have had so many sunny days in the 60’s and the 70’s.  

Also I don’t know anyone that gets up at 5 AM. School doesn’t start until 8 AM.

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33 minutes ago, TheThinkingOriole said:

Awesome? 15 Fridays in a row have had rain in the Baltimore Area. Of those 15 weekends, there has been rain on Saturday and/or Sunday. 

And plenty of working people get up at 5 a.m. 

I get up at 5 A.M. and have since I was 12 years of age.  On a dairy farm, cows do not carry clocks around with them.  Currently I need to be at work at 6:30 AM, hence the early rise that has been instilled in my system as a youth.  I have seen many a worker dimissed because they want Banker Hours.  Go work at a bank if you need to Sleep In.

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17 minutes ago, thezeroes said:

I get up at 5 A.M. and have since I was 12 years of age.  On a dairy farm, cows do not carry clocks around with them.  Currently I need to be at work at 6:30 AM, hence the early rise that has been instilled in my system as a youth.  I have seen many a worker dimissed because they want Banker Hours.  Go work at a bank if you need to Sleep In.

But you are talking about people with kids.  What do you with your kids when you are at work at 630?

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1 hour ago, atomic said:

I am not sure where you have been but the weather has been gorgeous.  If you are complaining about the weather this year you are just a complainer.  Compare the weather to any other April.  We have had so many sunny days in the 60’s and the 70’s.  

Also I don’t know anyone that gets up at 5 AM. School doesn’t start until 8 AM.

A lot of people get up at 5AM for work. I think people are fine losing a little sleep if they're going to be up late witnessing something entertaining. The 2019 Orioles are not worth losing beauty rest over.

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10 hours ago, atomic said:

I am not sure where you have been but the weather has been gorgeous.  If you are complaining about the weather this year you are just a complainer.  Compare the weather to any other April.  We have had so many sunny days in the 60’s and the 70’s.  

Also I don’t know anyone that gets up at 5 AM. School doesn’t start until 8 AM.

Nobody goes to the games during the week if it is 80 and sunny. Weekend weather is vital for walkup sales. The timing of the weather matters. Last two weekends it was raining or in the forecast. 

I get up at 330 and have kids. Many people I know are up by 5. 

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16 hours ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

Outside of Sodas, Pepsi has a pretty dominant brand portfolio. 

Not sure dominant is a word I would use:

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Pepsi owns: Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC, Hot 'n Now, East Side Mario's, D'Angelo Sandwich Shops, Chevys Fresh Mex, California Pizza Kitchen,

 

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2 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

Gatorade

Frito Lay

Tostitos

Lipton

Brisk

Quaker

True, but not of them  have anything to do with the actual Pepsi soda drink?

My point is, Pepsi itself is in 2nd place in the cola wars, and depends on buying food places, just in order to serve their brand.

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Just now, Redskins Rick said:

True, but not of them  have anything to do with the actual Pepsi soda drink?

My point is, Pepsi itself is in 2nd place in the cola wars, and depends on buying food places, just in order to serve their brand.

I literally said “outside of sodas,” which you quoted...

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4 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

I literally said “outside of sodas,” which you quoted...

LOL, sorry, need more coffee this morning.

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59 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

LOL, sorry, need more coffee this morning.

Or more Coca-Cola!

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21 hours ago, atomic said:

I doubt we ever see 2019 numbers again.  Baseball attendance is down 9 percent this year. Baseball overall keeps losing attendance.  

This is going to be the problem going forward for *every* sport.

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All of this aside, it all comes down to winning. People want to see a winning team.

The year the O's won the AL East, they averaged 30,426 per game in 2014.

Expectations were high the following year even though they ended up going .500 on the season. They averaged 29,246. This was also the year for the Baltimore riots, FWIW.

If you're a fan and you see a team go from the AL East and winning 96 games down to barely hitting .500, how much would you be riled up for the 2016 season? Well, apparently not as much. A drop to 26,819 per year in 2016. Yes, they made it to the playoffs via the WC game. Call it the effects of the Baltimore riots, lower expectations from a .500 season, but this is when it all started going south.

2017 they sucked. Won 75 games. Down again to 25,042 per game.

Then in 2018, they were historically awful. They won *47* games. The stars were traded. At the end of the season, Duquette and Buck gone. They averaged 19,311.

Don't tell me this is just because of costs of going to the game, the economy, effects of the riots, weather, etc. I think all of that matters, but not to the extent that winning matters.

If the O's somehow turned this season around and won 90 games, you can guaran-goddamn-tee you'd see an increase in attendance next year.

We'll never see an average of 40k+ people per game again, yes. That's the trend of all sports, i.e. more media consumption, less physical presence. But I do think we can see 30k+ per game.

Just have to win.

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