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2 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Well, if they can't draw for Yankees games, then your low estimate might be close.  The weather better hold up tonight; the SopranO's are going to our first game of the season.   

Looking pretty iffy.   Good luck!

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1 minute ago, Going Underground said:

Looks like most of the heavy rain should be out of the ares by 6:15 or so. Also be a little cooler.

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12 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

 

Looks like most of the heavy rain should be out of the area by 6:15 or so ........ also, it is expected to be a little cooler.

 

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That may be true, but John Fogerty himself would tell you that there are times when he has seen the rain coming down on a sunny day.

 

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16,299 tickets sold, not spinning turnstiles, so 1M in the books and there was much rejoicing.  During the game, the upper decks sections by each foul pole were completely empty.  Lower box LCF the first 5-6 rows then nothing.   Definitely felt like the Yankees were the home crowd,  as the O's gave next to nothing to cheer about.

Drove into town in the rain, no fun, but the sun came out about 1 hr before game time.  Social media night with Eshelman, free CF roof tickets, free food and drinks in the warehouse.   Weather cooperated, the team didn't.

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3-Game Set vs. YANKEES ))))))) (August 5th, 6th, and 7th)

 

 

ll20,151 )l) (44% Full)

ll17,201 )l) (37% Full)

ll16,299 )l) (35% Full)

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TOTAL lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll  53,651

 

3-GAME AVERAGElllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 17,884 

 

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3 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

16,299 tickets sold, not spinning turnstiles, so 1M in the books and there was much rejoicing.  During the game, the upper decks sections by each foul pole were completely empty.  Lower box LCF the first 5-6 rows then nothing.   Definitely felt like the Yankees were the home crowd,  as the O's gave next to nothing to cheer about.

Drove into town in the rain, no fun, but the sun came out about 1 hr before game time.  Social media night with Eshelman, free CF roof tickets, free food and drinks in the warehouse.   Weather cooperated, the team didn't.

How did you know about social media night?  I didn't see any ads for it, and I've been at each one for the past 3-4 years. 

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10 hours ago, TonySoprano said:


16,299 tickets sold, not spinning turnstiles, so 1M in the books and there was much rejoicing. During the game, the upper decks sections by each foul pole were completely empty.  Lower box LCF the first 5-6 rows then nothing. Definitely felt like the Yankees were the home crowd, as the O's gave next to nothing to cheer about.

We drove into town in the rain, no fun, but the sun came out about 1 hr before game time. Social media night with Eshelman, free CF roof tickets, free food and drinks in the warehouse. The weather cooperated, the team didn't.

 

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I'm glad that you at least got to see the game, instead of it getting rained out.

 

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18 hours ago, ThomasTomasz said:

How did you know about social media night?  I didn't see any ads for it, and I've been at each one for the past 3-4 years. 

This one wasn't advertised as it was a private event sponsored by my wife's company.   You had to get tickets directly from them and not the Orioles.  Once again, like the event last year with Eddie Murray, it was held on the 4th floor of the warehouse because of the rain.   Eshelman's Q&A lasted maybe 15 minutes.   They used to do 2-3 of these a year but not this year.  What a shame.

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Yet as the industry discovers the appetite for live baseball may be shrinking, a third wave of stadiums are gradually coming online, revealing franchises' desire to further shrink the ballpark - be it new or already existing.

“The Camden Yards-era ballparks were fitting the bill,” Oakland Athletics president Dave Kaval says of Baltimore’s innovatively retro stadium that opened in 1992. “But that was 20 years ago.”

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For the Diamondbacks, A’s and perhaps a significant number of clubs that may replace – or revamp – their Camden Yards-era parks, finding the sweet spot of atmosphere, accessibility and inclusion will be paramount in a sport with an aging and occasionally alienated fan base.

Less is more

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So far in 2019, teams are playing to 66% capacity.

But MLB’s attendance took a 4% hit in 2018 and is on pace for another dip this year. As pace-of-play and other concerns roil the game internally, and bottomless entertainment options threaten it externally, it’s easy to imagine other markets following Cleveland’s lead: Shrink the stadium.

With Cleveland suffering a population decline and the 2009 recession hitting it particularly hard, the crowds that jammed then-Jacobs Field beyond its 43,000-seat capacity in the late ‘90s were unlikely to similarly fill rebranded Progressive Field.

So before the 2015 season, the club chiseled away.

After surveying its fans and season-ticket holders, unused suites were converted into a two-story indoor-outdoor family area with baseball-related activities. The right field corner was turned into a “social space,” with a large outdoor bar and gathering area. The right-center field area opens up to the city around it.

Nearly every change in the refreshed 34,000-seat park was geared toward a nebulous concept viewed as crucial to resuscitating the ballpark experience: Engagement.

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Baseball has five franchises essentially invulnerable to sagging attendance – the Red Sox, Cardinals, Cubs, Yankees and Dodgers. All have sold at least 87% of their 2019 ticket inventory and drawn at least 2.6 million fans every season this century.

For most of the 25 other franchises, team performance, the economy and the limitations of their stadium can have a far greater impact.

Right now, 15 teams are on pace to draw fewer fans than a 2018 season that saw a 4% overall drop; with September likely to mirror an ugly April at the gate, it wouldn’t be surprising if up to 20 teams’ attendance declined.

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Though the Rangers’ and Braves’ new stadiums show the public-funding spigot may never be turned off – particularly if taxpayers have no say – municipalities may be warier to fund the palaces of billionaires. While the Braves’ park got funded essentially behind the public’s back, it also cost Cobb County politicians their jobs.

More than $12 billion in public money was spent on stadiums across all sports in the first 15 years of this century, that on the heels of billions more spent to fund many of the ballparks in the Camden-inspired wave.

It would be unsurprising if public sentiment sounded something like, “Didn’t we just buy you a stadium?”

That won’t stop teams from trying – particularly when the bar for entertainment only seems to rise.

“If you’re going to come out to the park,” says Kaval, “it has to be special, it has to be different.”

And in the future, probably a lot more cozy.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2019/08/08/mlb-attendance-stadiums-future/1941614001/

 

 

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You could get into the Ravens game for $5 tonight plus fees. Low attendance is a sports issue, not just baseball. 

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On 8/7/2019 at 9:30 AM, Going Underground said:

The Orioles think they might get over 82,000 against Houston with the discount tickets for the series and the giveaways. Still have many tickets left for the series . We shall see. That Kansas City series after they come back from the road trip during the week should be packed. 

Looks like 80,000 might not happen.Maybe 70,000 or a little more if people come out.Doubt they hit 30,000 for a game ,,the rest of the year.

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13 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Looks like 80,000 might not happen.Maybe 70,000 or a little more if people come out.Doubt they hit 30,000 for a game ,,the rest of the year.

Final home game, maybe?    But probably not.    Looking at last year, they drew 32 k against the Yankees on a Saturday in late August, and never passed 30 k again.    They only topped 30 k six times last year, and four times so far this season.    

In 2014, they averaged 30 k a game.    This year they’re at about 17 k.

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On 8/5/2019 at 10:30 AM, Frobby said:

Based on trends the last three years, I’d guess slightly under 1.425 mm.   We do have a few attractive series left, but the overall trend is attendance/game over the final third of the season tends to lag the first two thirds by a little bit.   I doubt that will change with the O’s this far out of the race.    Right now they are 155,000 below the same point last year.    I’d guess they’ll end up between 1.35-1.40 mm.

Based on the games left and no Yankee or Red Sox games left weekend or otherwise, I can see just about 1.31 or so.September usually is not a big draw and Royals, Blue Jay's and Mariners left.Do have the Dodgers but that is during the week.Rangers and Ray's also not a draw.Plus the giveaways are not the big draws the rest of the year.In fact the giveaways are some of the worst I have seen to end a year.Maybe do $1.00 tickets again?

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