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2020 Comp Pick estimates (After Urban departure yesterday)

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Baltimore RavensQualifying UFAs Lost: 5Qualifying UFAs Gained: 3NameRd.APYRankNameRd.APYRankC.J. Mosley3$17,000,00023Earl Thomas3$13,750,00052Za’Darius Smith3$16,500,00027 John Brown4$9,000,000144 Terrell Suggs5$7,000,000245Justin Bethel7$2,000,000697Brent Urban?TBATBAMark Ingram6$5,000,000336Non-Qualifying UFAs LostNon-Qualifying UFAs GainedTy Montgomery$895,0001014 

So 

Mosley is cancelled out by Thomas

Z Smith gets us a 3rd

J Brown a 4th

Suggs is cancelled out by ingram

Urban now cancels out J Bethel

 

https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/

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Maxx Williams signed with the Cardinals. We just need his contract to be worth enough and him and Urban to stay healthy and we are looking at 3rd, 4th, and 5th round comp picks.

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On 5/3/2019 at 9:13 PM, Brian88 said:

 

Maxx Williams signed with the Cardinals. We just need his contract to be worth enough and him and Urban to stay healthy and we are looking at 3rd, 4th, and 5th round comp picks.

That fifth round comp pick would really be a 6th round pick once you add all the prior comp picks. 

For example this years first 5th round comp pick was 171.  Without comp picks the first pick in the 6th round would be 161.  As such I don't really care whether we get the pick or not.  

Probably getting rid of comp picks makes the most sense.   If your players are so valuable pay them.

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Maxx Williams contract wasn't worth enough so we will be getting a 3rd rounder and a 4th rounder as long as Brent Urban doesn't get cut or injured.

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Urban was just cut by the Titans ....Result Ravens lose their 4th Round comp pick for John Brown. By rule if a player is cut before week 10 compensation is forfeited. These rules clearly make no sense.

The Ravens can recover that pick but would need to cut Special Teamer Justin Bethel.

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5 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Urban was just cut by the Titans ....Result Ravens lose their 4th Round comp pick for John Brown. By rule if a player is cut before week 10 compensation is forfeited. These rules clearly make no sense.

The Ravens can recover that pick but would need to cut Special Teamer Justin Bethel.

That is true.  I have no idea why the comp pick system exists. There is a salary cap.  No need to give anyone a compensation pick if you lose a player. 

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4 hours ago, atomic said:

That is true.  I have no idea why the comp pick system exists. There is a salary cap.  No need to give anyone a compensation pick if you lose a player. 

The system rewards the teams that are good drafting and developing players. But the fact that you can sign a player away and then cutting him effects the comp system is stupid.

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19 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

The system rewards the teams that are good drafting and developing players. But the fact that you can sign a player away and then cutting him effects the comp system is stupid.

Why should they be rewarded?  They are already rewarded by having good players on their team after they drafted them.  I don't get the need for it.  

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5 minutes ago, atomic said:

Why should they be rewarded?  They are already rewarded by having good players on their team after they drafted them.  I don't get the need for it.  

As said ... it rewards team that draft and develop well. Players are controlled only 4 years outside of the the 1st round. Most of the these guys take 2-3 years to develop. So just as you are receiving value the player is a free agent. Unlike baseball where the development years don’t count. I actually quite like the system.

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The pick is just worth more than a ST player. Harbaugh was complimentary of bethel, so it wasn’t anything personal.

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5 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

As said ... it rewards team that draft and develop well. Players are controlled only 4 years outside of the the 1st round. Most of the these guys take 2-3 years to develop. So just as you are receiving value the player is a free agent. Unlike baseball where the development years don’t count. I actually quite like the system.

I don’t see what drafting well should be rewarded. That makes zero sense.  If you are are saying more good players will be in the league as teams are rewarded by spending more time developing them.  I still don’t buy it as most comp picks are going to take just as long to develop.  So I don’t see what rewarding teams does for the quality of players in the league,

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