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O's 2020 MLB Draft Chat: Picking #2/30/39/74

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Two guys I'm getting more interested in seeing the O's take at 30 or 39, are Arizona HS SS Carson Tucker and Florida HS RHP Carson Montgomery. Both with a lot of upside. I likee me some Carson, it seems. :P

 

Edit:  Justin Lange and Tanner Witt are two others I really like, though Witt is rumored to be un-signable. Oh, and I'd take Bitsko over any of them. I just don't think he'll be there at 30. :)

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As I've brought up before, I love Blaze Jordan's upside and would be very happy to get him. His stock dropped after a so-so showing against tougher pitching this past summer, but high upside HS'ers always intrigue me.

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1 hour ago, Big Mac said:

Latest mock from Keith Law: https://theathletic.com/1841204/2020/05/28/keith-laws-2020-mlb-mock-draft-first-round-projection-2-0/

Has the O's taking Martin but repeats the underslot rumors only instead says he has heard that guy could be Heston Kjerstad.  Say's that he has heard a few times they won't take a pitcher.

Kjerstad at 2 would be a big disappointment to me, under-slot strategy or not. If not Tork, Martin or even Lacy, I'll just shake my head and wait to see who else we get.

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12 minutes ago, Greg Pappas said:

Kjerstad at 2 would be a big disappointment to me, under-slot strategy or not. If not Tork, Martin or even Lacy, I'll just shake my head and wait to see who else we get.

I don't like the idea of just deciding not to take a pitcher.  Maybe it is because they rank some of the underslot guys higher, but if the strategy is just not take a pitcher generally I think it's unwise. 

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1 hour ago, Big Mac said:

I don't like the idea of just deciding not to take a pitcher.  Maybe it is because they rank some of the underslot guys higher, but if the strategy is just not take a pitcher generally I think it's unwise. 

I'm sure it is just this particular class of pitchers at #2. I don't think it is an organizational philosophy not to take a pitcher with a top pick, just with this class. I imagine if there was a Strasburg available, they would take him.

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20 hours ago, Greg Pappas said:

As I've brought up before, I love Blaze Jordan's upside and would be very happy to get him. His stock dropped after a so-so showing against tougher pitching this past summer, but high upside HS'ers always intrigue me.

It is encouraging to hear LHP Dax Fulton. I’ve been hoping we would take him with one of 30/39. Not a huge Blaze Jordan guy. It’s one big tool, raw power, and a 1B/DH profile. The raw power is nice though.

There are a few college SS’s and college arms I figure Elias might be looking at for one of the two picks. But there are several very toolsy HS picks that should be there if Elias wants to take a chance. 

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4 minutes ago, Jammer7 said:

It is encouraging to hear LHP Dax Fulton. I’ve been hoping we would take him with one of 30/39. Not a huge Blaze Jordan guy. It’s one big tool, raw power, and a 1B/DH profile. The raw power is nice though.

There are a few college SS’s and college arms I figure Elias might be looking at for one of the two picks. But there are several very toolsy HS picks that should be there if Elias wants to take a chance. 

It's hard to know what Blaze Jordan becomes at just 17. I agree with you that his prolific power is his one big tool, but he may yet develop into a decent defender somewhere and develop his batting eye.  Time will tell. I prefer we look at him after 39, but he may not be available at 74. Hard to determine.  

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On 5/29/2020 at 10:17 AM, Greg Pappas said:

It's hard to know what Blaze Jordan becomes at just 17. I agree with you that his prolific power is his one big tool, but he may yet develop into a decent defender somewhere and develop his batting eye.  Time will tell. I prefer we look at him after 39, but he may not be available at 74. Hard to determine.  

Eye of the beholder thing. He’s just not for me. He has apparently worked hard to tone his body. It is hard to say what he will become, but the risk is extreme with him. I would hope he goes to college and develops an ability to hit good pitching and get to his power in games. 

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I think with the opinions that the O's could go under-slot and take Nick Gonzalez, we should begin to take a harder look at him.

  • He just turned 21 a few days ago
  • He's 5/10-190
  • Bats and throws right-handed
  • Played at New Mexico State
  • Had a remarkable career, leading the NCAA in batting in 2019
  • Was the Cape Cod Wood Bat Summer League MVP last year.

A couple of pieces on Gonzalez:

From Luke Jackson 🙂 on May 17th on PressboxOnline.com ... https://pressboxonline.com/2020/05/18/top-mlb-draft-prospect-nick-gonzales-on-his-navy-orioles-connections/
From May 26th on MLB.com... https://www.mlb.com/news/2020-mlb-draft-prospect-nick-gonzales
 

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As well, there are rumors that the Tigers may not take Torkelson, leaving the O's with the chance to take him. The odds are the Tigers take Tork, but I think while most feel it'll go Tork and Martin, we may see some unexpected things happen at the top.  It'll be interesting. As O's fans, I'd take the time to look at Tork, Martin, Lacy and Gonzalez, to feel covered. Heck, maybe even a couple of others. :P

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Last year Elias first seven draft picks were position players.  If this year the draft is pitching heavy,   take 'em.

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Any rumors that the Tigers aren’t taking Tork sounds like the usual smoke screens/negotiating tactics that happen the closer you get to draft day. In the end I think we’re picking between Martin, Lacy and Gonz. 
 

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1 minute ago, WalkWithElias said:

Any rumors that the Tigers aren’t taking Tork sounds like the usual smoke screens/negotiating tactics that happen the closer you get to draft day. In the end I think we’re picking between Martin, Lacy and Gonz. 
 

Just like the O's were looking at players other than AR last year.

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Here's a new piece about 5 potential draft choices for the O's, from Dan Connolly of TheAthletic.com. It's behind a paywall ($).

Note: Perhaps one other (long shot) prospect Dan could've added is HS OF'er Zac Veen.

I will only share this bit on Asa Lacy: 

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Why the Orioles will take him: Because they want another top-shelf arm to match with young hurlers such as DL Hall and Grayson Rodriguez. Lacy is the prototype starting pitcher. He is big, left-handed, can reach 98 with his fastball and has three other quality pitches, including an excellent slider. He dominated in his first four starts and has jumped over Emerson Hancock as the best pitcher in this draft. And did I mention, he is a lefty?

Why the Orioles won’t take him: Because you can’t miss when you have the second overall pick, and pitching is always a risk, especially at such a price tag. Consider that the last five pitchers to go No. 2 overall were shelved by elbow or shoulder surgeries early in their careers (Justin Verlander was also taken No. 2 in 2004 and is a future Hall of Famer). Add in Elias’ experience with No. 1 overall pitchers that busted while he was with the Houston Astros, and the safe play here is definitely a hitter. Especially with one of Martin’s pedigree available.

 

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