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1 hour ago, Roy Firestone said:

All I'm saying is that Trey will be a solid player...the Salmon comp wasn't supposed to be a statistical one...i was using the analogy to say Mancini might be a Salmon type player...beloved by his home fans and not really well known around the league. And by the way, even if I over stated Mancini in his comparison to Tim, who's to say I'm absolutely wrong...we don't know what the future will bring. Its still only his second full season, and Trey could get stronger, smarter as a hitter and become a 30 HR a year guy. If Im wrong....who cares? SUE ME.

I just think Salmon was an extremely good player.   Maybe a little underappreciated because he played on the West Coast, but consistently very good.    Better than Adam Jones.   Better than Nick Markakis.    Better than BJ Surhoff.   Better than Brady Anderson.    That level of good.   And Trey Mancini will not be nearly as good as those guys.    I’d be pleased if he had a career as good or better than Luke Scott’s.

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40 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I wouldn't pay 8.5M a win for a 1B/DH.

More like 4.

Of course, 4 is better than 8.5, especially if you have a 10 WAR player, then thats  85 million per year which is stupid, then again 40 million is stupid too. IMO

I was referring to what I thought Fangraphs had declared as their idea of what what 1 WAR should cost.

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8 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I just think Salmon was an extremely good player.   Maybe a little underappreciated because he played on the West Coast, but consistently very good.    Better than Adam Jones.   Better than Nick Markakis.    Better than BJ Surhoff.   Better than Brady Anderson.    That level of good.   And Trey Mancini will not be nearly as good as those guys.    I’d be pleased if he had a career as good or better than Luke Scott’s.

 

9 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I just think Salmon was an extremely good player.   Maybe a little underappreciated because he played on the West Coast, but consistently very good.    Better than Adam Jones.   Better than Nick Markakis.    Better than BJ Surhoff.   Better than Brady Anderson.    That level of good.   And Trey Mancini will not be nearly as good as those guys.    I’d be pleased if he had a career as good or better than Luke Scott’s.

I dont think we will see Trey in the Orioles HOF.

He will have a decent career, just nothing to jump up and down over. IMO.

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14 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Of course, 4 is better than 8.5, especially if you have a 10 WAR player, then thats  85 million per year which is stupid, then again 40 million is stupid too. IMO

I was referring to what I thought Fangraphs had declared as their idea of what what 1 WAR should cost.

I know.

I'm not paying that for a 1b/dh.  Market is saturated with them.

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Just now, weams said:

He said a discount. A great deal. 

Also, do you know what 2 WAR is worth from a DH on a last place team? $0.0 

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Some guys I consider roughly comparable to Mancini, who played a while with the Orioles:

Gary Roenicke (15.4 WAR)

Luke Scott (11.9 WAR)

Curt Blefary (11.0 WAR)

Steve Pearce (10.8 WAR)

David Segui (10.4 WAR)

Jay Gibbons (5.5 WAR)

I think that’s about the range here.  

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12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Some guys I consider roughly comparable to Mancini, who played a while with the Orioles:

Gary Roenicke (15.4 WAR)

Luke Scott (11.9 WAR)

Curt Blefary (11.0 WAR)

Steve Pearce (10.8 WAR)

David Segui (10.4 WAR)

Jay Gibbons (5.5 WAR)

I think that’s about the range here.  

Gary and his battle buddy Brother John brought back many found memories of watching them play ball. :)

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19 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Some guys I consider roughly comparable to Mancini, who played a while with the Orioles:

Gary Roenicke (15.4 WAR)

Luke Scott (11.9 WAR)

Curt Blefary (11.0 WAR)

Steve Pearce (10.8 WAR)

David Segui (10.4 WAR)

Jay Gibbons (5.5 WAR)

I think that’s about the range here.  

Mancini reminds me of Jeff Conine. 

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1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Mancini reminds me of Jeff Conine. 

Conine wasn't even a full time player until age 27.  Didn't know that.  But he was a much better LFer early in his career.

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1 minute ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Conine wasn't even a full time player until age 27.  Didn't know that.  But he was a much better LFer early in his career.

Mr. Marlin. 

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28 minutes ago, Frobby said:

 

Some guys whom I consider roughly comparable to Mancini, who played a while with the Orioles:

 

Gary Roenicke (15.4 WAR)

Luke Scott (11.9 WAR)

Curt Blefary (11.0 WAR)

Steve Pearce (10.8 WAR)

David Segui (10.4 WAR)

Jay Gibbons (5.5 WAR)

 

I think that thats about the range here.  

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

 

Gary and his battle buddy Brother John brought back many found memories of watching them play ball. ) :)

 

o

 

25 HR's, 64 RBI's, and that facemask that he work on his batting helmet ........ numbers and images that will be etched in my mind forever.

 

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