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2 hours ago, MurphDogg said:

I don't care how well Mason Williams is doing at AAA. His presence on the Tides roster shouldn't prevent Diaz from playing every day at AAA when Diaz is ready. 

Stewart should be in the Majors also, but Mason Williams should should not stand in the way of Diaz getting at-bats at the appropriate level, which at this point I believe is AAA. Finding at-bats for Mason Williams is not a priority.

I’m not as worried about moving him up as you are. He is not going to start in Baltimore in 2020 anyway. Bowie has a good chance to make the playoffs. 

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Diaz is around the top 10 in homers and RBI in the league, even with missing 40 percent of the season. It looks like they are keeping him there for the playoffs, at least to me. Other than Hays, no one else should keep Diaz from starting in Norfolk at this point.

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13 hours ago, orioles22 said:

Diaz is around the top 10 in homers and RBI in the league, even with missing 40 percent of the season. It looks like they are keeping him there for the playoffs, at least to me. Other than Hays, no one else should keep Diaz from starting in Norfolk at this point.

I really don't think that roster moves/promotions are based on playoffs.  Winning a Minor League playoff sells tickets for the MiLB club.  Player development should not be based on a team's place in the standings.  I doubt Elias is looking at the standings as he determines what is best for a player's development.

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1 hour ago, cboemmeljr said:

I really don't think that roster moves/promotions are based on playoffs.  Winning a Minor League playoff sells tickets for the MiLB club.  Player development should not be based on a team's place in the standings.  I doubt Elias is looking at the standings as he determines what is best for a player's development.

Agreed.  Though some may be arguing that he wants to get guys experience in playoff situations, which is fine.  But I don't think MiLB playoffs do much to prepare you for nationally televised MLB playoffs.

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7 minutes ago, joelala said:

Agreed.  Though some may be arguing that he wants to get guys experience in playoff situations, which is fine.  But I don't think MiLB playoffs do much to prepare you for nationally televised MLB playoffs.

I think it’s more the experience of playing on a winning team that pushes through a pennant race and then some pressure games, rather than any specific experience they get from the playoffs.   And, it would kind of suck for all the other players at Bowie, as well as the fans who support that team, if their best hitter was taken away just as they were making their playoff push.   I’m not saying those are important considerations compared to what is best for the player’s development, but I wouldn’t say they have zero weight, either.   

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I think it’s more the experience of playing on a winning team that pushes through a pennant race and then some pressure games, rather than any specific experience they get from the playoffs.   And, it would kind of suck for all the other players at Bowie, as well as the fans who support that team, if their best hitter was taken away just as they were making their playoff push.   I’m not saying those are important considerations compared to what is best for the player’s development, but I wouldn’t say they have zero weight, either.   

Totally fair points all around.  I suppose some playoff experience is better than none, albeit experience with much lower stakes. 

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Really don't see what else Yusniel has to learn at AA. Time to move Stewart to the bigs, Yusniel to AAA, and goodbye Dwight Smith Jr. 

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I don't think Diaz has anything else to learn at AA.  At the same time, I'm trusting Elias and his team to make the right decisions.   They seem to know what they are doing.  So, for now, I'm not sweating Diaz still being in AA.  

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50 minutes ago, Flash- bd said:

Really don't see what else Yusniel has to learn at AA. Time to move Stewart to the bigs, Yusniel to AAA, and goodbye Dwight Smith Jr. 

Let him win at Bowie and call him up to the bigs in September.

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Depends on if there is anything player development has him working on. If they are asking him to make tweaks to his swing or approach at the plate, it makes sense to have him try new stuff in a place where he is comfortable, confident, and not worried about his playing card stats. If they are just letting him rip, he's ready to move up to Norfolk. 

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

I think it’s more the experience of playing on a winning team that pushes through a pennant race and then some pressure games, rather than any specific experience they get from the playoffs.   And, it would kind of suck for all the other players at Bowie, as well as the fans who support that team, if their best hitter was taken away just as they were making their playoff push.   I’m not saying those are important considerations compared to what is best for the player’s development, but I wouldn’t say they have zero weight, either.   

I actually completely disagree with this. Playoff baseball is a different animal at any level. The quality of competition is higher. The attention to detail better. The preparation much more thorough. I actually think it's very valuable to put guys in those situations.

I'll say it: I'd rather have Diaz playing in the playoffs in Bowie than getting meaningless at bats when our pitching just gave up 16 runs in Norfolk.

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54 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I don't think Diaz has anything else to learn at AA.  At the same time, I'm trusting Elias and his team to make the right decisions.   They seem to know what they are doing.  So, for now, I'm not sweating Diaz still being in AA.  

Overall, Elias has been pretty patient with the prospects.    He doesn’t seem in a hurry to push them along.    

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Overall, Elias has been pretty patient with the prospects.    He doesn’t seem in a hurry to push them along.    

I don't want to see any pitcher going straight from Bowie to Baltimore because of the changes to the baseball. We've seen Norfolk go from a place all good hitting prospects go to die to Akin putting up so-so numbers yet starting the AAA All Star game because these new baseballs he led to such big offensive stats. 

I don't know how I feel about a hitter moving from Bowie to Baltimore. I don't think the balls make any difference to a hitter's approach or how a player would perform defensively. 

What I'm getting at is - Does the level Diaz plays at for the rest of the summer have any impact on where he starts next year? With an equally strong spring, could he be in Baltimore to start 2020 or is there a checkbox that needs to be marked in Norfolk before he comes up?

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1 minute ago, WalkWithElias said:

I don't want to see any pitcher going straight from Bowie to Baltimore because of the changes to the baseball. We've seen Norfolk go from a place all good hitting prospects go to die to Akin putting up so-so numbers yet starting the AAA All Star game because these new baseballs he led to such big offensive stats. 

I don't know how I feel about a hitter moving from Bowie to Baltimore. I don't think the balls make any difference to a hitter's approach or how a player would perform defensively. 

What I'm getting at is - Does the level Diaz plays at for the rest of the summer have any impact on where he starts next year? With an equally strong spring, could he be in Baltimore to start 2020 or is there a checkbox that needs to be marked in Norfolk before he comes up?

Not necessarily a checkbox, but I think the options situation will come into play.    Hays and Santander will have only one option remaining, and Stewart will have two.   Diaz will have three.    So, it’s likely he starts the year in Norfolk.

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8 minutes ago, WalkWithElias said:

What I'm getting at is - Does the level Diaz plays at for the rest of the summer have any impact on where he starts next year? With an equally strong spring, could he be in Baltimore to start 2020 or is there a checkbox that needs to be marked in Norfolk before he comes up?

I think service time is an issue for Diaz as much as just about any guy in our system. They'll want to get the extra year and, just guessing, I think they'll use the Norfolk step to do that.

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