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Talent wise, yes.  Results wise, pretty much the same.  Last year, they vastly under performed.  This year, they are what they are.

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27 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Might be true but it costs way more. If you are going to lose, lose cheap.

And with no expectations of winning; thus, the small delight when we do.

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36 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Might be true but it costs way more. If you are going to lose, lose cheap.

Because of Davis, Trumbo, and Cobb, the team is still far from cheap. We're stuck with the Davis spend, but Trumbo will be off the books after this season, and there's still some hope that Cobb will give us some value for the contract through 2021 that we have with him. Regardless that's over $30 million / year wasted even after this season is over. Remarkable.

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At least this year we are cycling new guys in and trying them out and seeing if we have something.   The following players have made their Orioles debut this year:   Jackson, Karns, Straily, Alberto, Martin, Ruiz, Broxton, Ortiz, Phillips, Severino, Smith Jr., Armstrong, Sucre.   A bunch more made their debuts last August and September.   Most of these guys will never amount to anything but it's better playing, and losing, and finding out about these guys than it was playing sub-.300 ball on a team with quality veterans like  Manny Machado, Alex, Cobb, Jon Schoop, Brad Brach, Kevin Gausman, Darren O'Day, and Mark Trumbo.   That was a truly horrific experience for a fan.

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12 hours ago, SteveA said:

At least this year we are cycling new guys in and trying them out and seeing if we have something.   The following players have made their Orioles debut this year:   Jackson, Karns, Straily, Alberto, Martin, Ruiz, Broxton, Ortiz, Phillips, Severino, Smith Jr., Armstrong, Sucre.   A bunch more made their debuts last August and September.   Most of these guys will never amount to anything but it's better playing, and losing, and finding out about these guys than it was playing sub-.300 ball on a team with quality veterans like  Manny Machado, Alex, Cobb, Jon Schoop, Brad Brach, Kevin Gausman, Darren O'Day, and Mark Trumbo.   That was a truly horrific experience for a fan.

Let me pour on some more Horrific sauce: Jones, Britton, Davis, Showalter.

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14 minutes ago, SteveA said:

At least this year we are cycling new guys in and trying them out and seeing if we have something.   The following players have made their Orioles debut this year:   Jackson, Karns, Straily, Alberto, Martin, Ruiz, Broxton, Ortiz, Phillips, Severino, Smith Jr., Armstrong, Sucre.   A bunch more made their debuts last August and September.   Most of these guys will never amount to anything but it's better playing, and losing, and finding out about these guys than it was playing sub-.300 ball on a team with quality veterans like  Manny Machado, Alex, Cobb, Jon Schoop, Brad Brach, Kevin Gausman, Darren O'Day, and Mark Trumbo.   That was a truly horrific experience for a fan.

Interesting list. From the guys you mentioned, Severino, Armstrong, maaaaybe Smith(but probably not) could be part of the next good team.

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For as bad as they’re playing, you would think they would have a clear-cut shot at the #1 pick, but several other teams are doing their best to do their worst. Last year only two teams (BAL and KC) had a winning percentage under .370. This year it’s five teams. 

I guess we need to start Davis more often. 

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6 hours ago, LA2 said:

Because of Davis, Trumbo, and Cobb, the team is still far from cheap. We're stuck with the Davis spend, but Trumbo will be off the books after this season, and there's still some hope that Cobb will give us some value for the contract through 2021 that we have with him. Regardless that's over $30 million / year wasted even after this season is over. Remarkable.

I’m over Davis, Trumbo, and Cobb. I just want to see this team get the most they can in trades for Cashner, Bundy, and Villar. Givens has pitched his trade value to zero. 

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The team is terrible.  They were always going to be terrible this year, and they'll probably be terrible for another year or 2 after this.  Should not be a surprise to anyone.

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It’s looking like next year’s team will be as terrible as well. Sure we might see some prospects up finally, but the SP will take a step back if that is even possible. 

We’ll likely be losing Bundy and Cashner to trades. So that leaves a rotation of,

Means

Cobb(haha)

Hess

Ynoa

Akin

I don’t see us rushing any prospects. It might even be a stretch to see Akin on the OD roster.  Lowther, Kremer, Harvey, etc..., could make their debuts, but likely not until mid season 2020. 

Elias is going to have to sign two innings eaters SP just to have some respectability. 

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it’s just about what everyone (myself included) said was needed. Nothing to do but take our medicine for a few years. Just have to pray that we draft the right guys, and have the same upswing as KC (‘14 & ‘15), HOU, and the CUBS...

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8 hours ago, LA2 said:

Because of Davis, Trumbo, and Cobb, the team is still far from cheap.

We are 24th of 30 teams in payroll.    That’s not “far from cheap.”    Do we wish it could be cheaper?    Sure.   

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