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My point is this team is looking at a 110 loss season, it was a no brainer to trade Cashner for prospects for a free agent to be next year going to be 33. I can't see anyone dispute this.

 

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7 minutes ago, atomic said:

For two 17 year olds?  Come on.  At a certain point Elias just need to be fired. 

Yes, this is the final straw. A fifth starter being traded for low level prospects. He has been the GM almost 8 months, we demand results!!!!!!!!

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47 minutes ago, LocoChris said:

Yikes.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Buck Showalter is it?

Showalter was a lame duck. Not trying to defend Buck too much, but DD and the coaches were dead men walking. 

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8 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Yes, this is the final straw. A fifth starter being traded for low level prospects. He has been the GM almost 8 months, we demand results!!!!!!!!

He is not a fifth starter.  Look at we gave up for Norris and Feldman.  Cashner is better than them. 

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3 hours ago, mdbdotcom said:

I'm assuming that all the top kids have advisers who keep them abreast of what the teams are doing. 

Why would they care about this trade?  The Oriole team was competitive in the DSL last season. 

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25 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Mister Krushchev said, "We will bury you"
I don't subscribe to this point of view

"I hope Adley Rutchman will be a great pick for me and you"."I hope Oriole children will see a good team soon".

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1 hour ago, LocoChris said:

Yikes.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Buck Showalter is it?

Well besides Cashner who on the team from last  is better this year? Mancini?   I don't see any other improvements.  

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23 minutes ago, atomic said:

 

 

He is not a fifth starter.  Look at we gave up for Norris and Feldman.  Cashner is better than them. 

True and valid, but Norris had two more years. That was a very good trade. And Feldman was more about dumping Arietta and showing how stupid Duquette is. That was a very bad trade.

Mike is not Dan, and it is way too early to be passing judgement on him.

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2 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

This is a funny place.  We all go crazy on J2 when Elias signs a bunch of guys just like this.  And then we trade an average ML starter for two guys that are just like J2 types and...all of a sudden it's a big letdown.  

Why were we crazy for the guys Elias signed on July 2nd. None were top rated players.  None were big dollar signings.  

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4 minutes ago, atomic said:

Well besides Cashner who on the team from last  is better this year? Mancini?   I don't see any other improvements.  

Our team is a lot different from last year...

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22 minutes ago, atomic said:

 

 

He is not a fifth starter.  Look at we gave up for Norris and Feldman.  Cashner is better than 

Norris had 2.5 years of control left and Arrieta and Strop were considered spare parts by the Orioles at the time. Come on man. 

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1 minute ago, Lucky_13 said:

Norris had 2.5 years of control left and Arrieta and Strop were considered spare parts by the Orioles at the time. Come on man. 

Not to mention Norris had more then a half a season of recent success.

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25 minutes ago, atomic said:

 

 

He is not a fifth starter.  Look at we gave up for Norris and Feldman.  Cashner is better than them

Not really. Feldman had a 3.46ERA 3.93FIP 3.83xFIP when the Cubs traded him to the Orioles. Cashner has a 3.83ERA 4.25FIP 4.88xFIP.

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13 minutes ago, atomic said:

Well besides Cashner who on the team from last  is better this year? Mancini?   I don't see any other improvements.  

Why would anyone downvote this?  I was asking who has improved? If you think I missed anyone please tell me.  Villar hasn't improved, Bundy did not improve, Givens didn't improve.  Castro didn't improve.  Bleier didn't improve.  Hess didn't improve.  Wright didn't improve.  Davis didn't improve.  

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