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Orioles trade Cashner to Red Sox

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4 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

 

 

That’s interesting. They only save $1.68 million. Not exactly a salary dump - Elias must like the players they got back.

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Just now, Luke-OH said:

Is there any?

All I’ll say is if you want potential impact from a guy like Cashner, you have to go young/high risk. It’s this or older prospects with limited ceiling which plenty of posters here expressed dislike for in last year’s trades.

Exactly. Give me more of the high ceiling guys we got last year like Encarnacion or Carmona. Not guys like Phillips and Rogers, that will just clog up the 40 man. 

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1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

Signing these guys is not an exact science. Sometimes the 80k and 200k guys are better than the 1M guys.  It would be great to get to see them play in the DSL before choosing.  That's what we just did.  How bout being able to watch all the U S. amateurs play in GCL or Aberdeen for a season before having to make your draft selections.  Somehow I think that would improve the hit percentages.

Both Koby Perez and  Mike Elias will be extensively evaluated on their hit percentages, no doubt.  

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5 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Damn, we're paying him into 2021?  Granted its not a lot but its annoying.

PA was a big fan of Wimpy.

 

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1 minute ago, theocean said:

That’s interesting. They only save $1.68 million. Not exactly a salary dump - Elias must like the players they got back.

Or that was just the best offer (out of the two total) he got.

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6 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Damn, we're paying him into 2021?  Granted its not a lot but its annoying.

That isn't new information. Only new info is the fact that we are paying half of his remaining salary for this year.

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7 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

Because maybe the Red Sox want to deal now and you end up holding your Cashner in your hand.

That's what it Means and that's a Givens. Boston can just give him the ol' Severino if they aren't happy with his performance, but I'm glad someone is taking a Chance on him, Ynoa?

...sorry, I like to amuse myself from time to time. A couple of 17 year old international kids, eh. I guess that's alright. It wouldn't surprise me if it's the best we were going to get for him anyway. At least they are young and we can develop them.

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2 minutes ago, theocean said:

That’s interesting. They only save $1.68 million. Not exactly a salary dump - Elias must like the players they got back.

Well 1.68M is 1.68M.  That pays for anyone they bring up when rosters expand.

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Just now, MurphDogg said:

That isn't new information. Only new info is the fact that we are paying half of his remaining salary for this year.

I wonder how that works with the incentives?  I'm guessing the O's are paying half the base but the Sox will be responsible for reached incentives.

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11 minutes ago, Philip said:

Do you really think, especially this early in trade season, that we couldn’t have gotten more if we had waited? Even from the Bosox? Anything is possible but I think it is  Very likely we could’ve gotten more if we had waited.

I could argue with you, but let’s just check back in once Jason Vargas is dealt.

Side note, if there was a poll up two years ago that said Cashner or two 16 year olds from Venezuela...

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11 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

But we really have no idea what we got.

We got two 17-year-old kids. We haven’t any idea what we got.  We got a pocket full of mumbles, we got stock options from Enron, We got promises of eternal love, we got the hope of eternal salvation, we got two 17-year-old kids who probably don’t speak a word of English.

They are probably nothing. They are lottery tickets, signed for very little, and probably worth less. I’m not even going to bother trying to spell their names, because we probably will never see them again.

I am in the “we could’ve gotten more if we had waited” crowd.

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6 minutes ago, theocean said:

That’s interesting. They only save $1.68 million. Not exactly a salary dump - Elias must like the players they got back.

Koby Perez became top international scout for Indians Venezuela and DR in 2013, then became their international cross checker and Director of International operations  before he came to us..there is not a prospect in Venezuela that he has not known about for years...he hopefully was who liked them 

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Just now, Philip said:

We got two 17-year-old kids. We haven’t any idea what we got.  We got a pocket full of mumbles, we got stock options from Enron, We got promises of eternal love, we got the hope of eternal salvation, we got two 17-year-old kids who probably don’t speak a word of English.

They are probably nothing. They are lottery tickets, signed for very little, and probably worth less. I’m not even going to bother trying to spell their names, because we probably will never see them again.

I am in the “we could’ve gotten more if we had waited” crowd.

I'm betting their English is better than my Spanish.

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1 minute ago, Philip said:

We got two 17-year-old kids. We haven’t any idea what we got.  We got a pocket full of mumbles, we got stock options from Enron, We got promises of eternal love, we got the hope of eternal salvation, we got two 17-year-old kids who probably don’t speak a word of English.

They are probably nothing. They are lottery tickets, signed for very little, and probably worth less. I’m not even going to bother trying to spell their names, because we probably will never see them again.

I am in the “we could’ve gotten more if we had waited” crowd.

I am glad you are not Koby Perez. 

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8 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Anyway, I'm going to the store to get some ice cream.  I'll be back to check out the game thread with you bedwetters.

I hope that this trade tempers any expectations for any deals that we might be looking at for the rest of the summer.  Top 100 prospects, you ask?  HAHA!!

I never said we were going to get anything special for anybody, but I was hoping we would get more than this. I would’ve excepted it if the Red Sox had taken all the salary, but it turns out we’re paying over half The remaining money.

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