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2 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Chances of losing McKenna are slim and none.  Broxton isn't here next year.  50/50 that Smith and Wilkerson are. Difference is that they are already on the 40 man.  Every year I go through this.  Everyone wants to protect too many guys.  Everyone is afraid of losing someone who is 22 and hitting .235 in AA and striking out 1/4 of the time.  And some team is going to pick him, why?

I think we’ll have plenty of room to protect all of our “prospects”. The 40 man isn’t exactly overflowing with talent. Lots of stop gap P and guys like Broxton. 

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12 hours ago, MurphDogg said:

 

6. Alex Wells (pretty sure he is eligible, as he was signed in July 2015, but he didn't play until 2016)

 

 

MILB.com has Wells signing on August 29, 2015

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=649144#/career/R/pitching/2019/ALL

 

August 29 was also the last day of the GCL Orioles season

https://www.baseballamerica.com/teams/3201/gcl-orioles/schedule/?year=2015

 

Assuming he signed later in the day after the season ended, 2015 does not count as the first of five years.  So, he won't be eligible until after the 2020 season.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/explaining-the-rule-5-draft/

Also any players who have not been professionals long enough are also ineligible for the Rule 5 draft. For any pro who signed his initial contract as an 18-year-old or younger is eligible for the Rule 5 draft after their fifth professional season. Anyone who initially signed at 19 or older is eligible after their fourth professional season.

The wording of that is precise for a reason. If a player's first contract is signed where they are assigned to a team whose season has already ended, than that player's first counting season does not begin until the next season.

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24 minutes ago, EricK said:

 

MILB.com has Wells signing on August 29, 2015

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=649144#/career/R/pitching/2019/ALL

 

August 29 was also the last day of the GCL Orioles season

https://www.baseballamerica.com/teams/3201/gcl-orioles/schedule/?year=2015

 

Assuming he signed later in the day after the season ended, 2015 does not count as the first of five years.  So, he won't be eligible until after the 2020 season.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/explaining-the-rule-5-draft/

Also any players who have not been professionals long enough are also ineligible for the Rule 5 draft. For any pro who signed his initial contract as an 18-year-old or younger is eligible for the Rule 5 draft after their fifth professional season. Anyone who initially signed at 19 or older is eligible after their fourth professional season.

The wording of that is precise for a reason. If a player's first contract is signed where they are assigned to a team whose season has already ended, than that player's first counting season does not begin until the next season.

Excellent detective work. I knew the rule but I trusted his Wikipedia page when it said he signed in July 2015. Of course, the citation to that claim states he was signed August 29. Should have clicked through when I was reading it yesterday.

I agree that he does not need to be protected.

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It would be nice if we didn’t have to put Wells on the 40-man roster this offseason, but I’m hoping he’ll pitch well enough at Norfolk in 2020 that they’ll call him to Baltimore sometime during the season.   

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2 minutes ago, ChrisP said:

If Joey Rickard was selected, I could see McKenna selected with his solid track record for the past 2 years. 

Just remember Dan isn't a GM anymore.

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5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It would be nice if we didn’t have to put Wells on the 40-man roster this offseason, but I’m hoping he’ll pitch well enough at Norfolk in 2020 that they’ll call him to Baltimore sometime during the season.   

If he did have to be added this offseason, I wouldn't have been surprised if he pitched some innings this September for the O's. It isn't as if they have an overabundance of candidates and he isn't on an innings limit.

 

He isn't a candidate to play service time games because I agree that if everything goes well he should be up at some point next season regardless.

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4 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

If he did have to be added this offseason, I wouldn't have been surprised if he pitched some innings this September for the O's. It isn't as if they have an overabundance of candidates and he isn't on an innings limit.

 

He isn't a candidate to play service time games because I agree that if everything goes well he should be up at some point next season regardless.

If Dillion Tate is a candidate, everyone is a candidate.

At least in Wildcard's mind.

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24 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It would be nice if we didn’t have to put Wells on the 40-man roster this offseason, but I’m hoping he’ll pitch well enough at Norfolk in 2020 that they’ll call him to Baltimore sometime during the season.   

He doesn’t need Norfolk.

He should be in the Orioles rotation to start 2020.

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1 minute ago, DirtyBird said:

He doesn’t need Norfolk.

He should be in the Orioles rotation to start 2020.

I want him to use the major league balls in AAA.

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13 hours ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Chris Lee was released the other day, so I don't think we have to worry about him.

Dietz can't find the strike zone to save his life in Frederick.

Now who will Hunter talk about as a great prospect due to his 5-0 record at Bowie the year before?

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5 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Now who will Hunter talk about as a great prospect due to his 5-0 record at Bowie the year before?

Is that an indictment of Hunter, or the sad state of the farm system at the time?

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