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1 hour ago, weams said:

That might be as good as Villar? I'll start with Ortiz and Greiner.  I like Bannon and McCoy. And we have a few other wildcards. 

Wow!  Just wow.  Grenier?  I could argue why you are being wildly optimistic on any of these guys not only on the two year timetable (except for Bannon) but also being as good as Villar.   Grenier is looking like a big time bust.  He struck out 33% of the time in low A ball.  We aren't talking Joey Hallo here.  He has a long, long road ahead.  Or a short road out of organized ball.  He needs a complete overhaul.

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8 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Wow!  Just wow.  Grenier?  I could argue why you are being wildly optimistic on any of these guys not only on the two year timetable (except for Bannon) but also being as good as Villar.   Grenier is looking like a big time bust.  He struck out 33% of the time in low A ball.  We aren't talking Joey Hallo here.  He has a long, long road ahead.  Or a short road out of organized ball.  He needs a complete overhaul.

Most here are really down on Villar for some reason

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5 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd say at least seven.  6M is too small a number for his arb 3 year.

7ish is about right.   

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3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Trey Mancini--- 3 17 year old DSL prospects

Michael Givens--- 1 17 year old DSL prospect
Jonathan Villar--- 2  17 year old DSL prospects
Renato Nunez--- 1.5 17 year old DSL prospects
John Means---  3.14159265359 17 year old DSL prospects
Dylan Bundy--- .5 17 year old DSL Prospects
Paul Fry--- .015 17 year old DSL Prospects
Hanser Alberto--- 2 17 year old DSL prospects

You forgot Cobb, he's going to go on a hot streak and increase his trade value any minute now.

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5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

7ish is about right.   

I would imagine Elias is working the phone lines hard trying to find a trade partner for Villar.  If 7ish is his arb number, I suspect he will be non-tendered.

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3 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

If his value is as a pinch hitter, utility type I'd just keep him.

Same.  I don't really see a need to trade Alberto, he won't fetch much.  The only guy I would like to see the Orioles trade is Villar (and Mancini for the right offer, but I doubt they move him).

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31 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

You forgot Cobb, he's going to go on a hot streak and increase his trade value any minute now.

That would increase his trade value to .25 17 year old DSL prospects.

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50 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

You forgot Cobb, he's going to go on a hot streak and increase his trade value any minute now.

This is posted a year early, is it not/  You do seem to have a lot of Foresight.

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6 minutes ago, thezeroes said:

This is posted a year early, is it not/  You do seem to have a lot of Foresight.

Just a running gag with Moose.

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44 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

Same.  I don't really see a need to trade Alberto, he won't fetch much.  The only guy I would like to see the Orioles trade is Villar (and Mancini for the right offer, but I doubt they move him).

I've heard some people say that the Blue Jays set the market low with the Stroman trade, but if 1.5 control years of a #2-#3 SP gets a #3-#5 SP in Kay and a guy with TORP stuff that can touch 100 in Woods Richardson, I'd be happy for that return for a 1B/COF with 3.5 years of control

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3 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Most here are really down on Villar for some reason

Because he makes really stupid mindless mistake all the time.

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Morosi of MLB Network says the Orioles are talking to multiple teams about a Mancini deal.

Did Hyde blow our chance to deal Givens pitching him two days in a row which everyone knows is a problem for him?

Did anyone report yesterday the Brewers were interested in a Bundy deal?

With Segura injured yesterday before our game will the Phillies be interested in Villar? He's better at 2B but played SS yesterday.

I hope someone will deal for Castro my least favorite pitcher. He must have pictures because they continue to let him blow leads.

Would Brooks be better coming out of the pen? He has been terrible his last two starts and looks really stressed when pitching. He may relax and improve with a move to the pen.

Can someone fix Tanner Scott? What a wasted talent.

 

 

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