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What if Mancini/Santander/Núñez are actually this good?

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Are very good defensive catchers making the minimum DFA'd?

If they're out of options, sure. Worth noting it's his arm that is thought highly of, not necessarily his overall defense.

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Two words: juiced ball. Christian fricking Walker has 19 homeruns. Not to totally dismiss what these guys are doing, but you have to take into consideration how wonky this season is shaping up.

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1 minute ago, interloper said:

If they're out of options, sure. Worth noting it's his arm that is thought highly of, not necessarily his overall defense.

I'm thinking "very good defensive" catchers who are really cheap aren't getting sent down, even if they can't hit.  Geez the O's kept Caleb "0 RBI" Joseph for a season.

I do agree with your second point.

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3 minutes ago, Finisher said:

Two words: juiced ball. Christian fricking Walker has 19 homeruns. Not to totally dismiss what these guys are doing, but you have to take into consideration how wonky this season is shaping up.

I'd love to see a study on if some hitters are helped more by the changes in the ball than others and if so by how much.  I would think guys with formerly warning track power would get much more of a boost than someone who hits big dongs when they connect but have a lot of swing and miss in their game.

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12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd love to see a study on if some hitters are helped more by the changes in the ball than others and if so by how much.  I would think guys with formerly warning track power would get much more of a boost than someone who hits big dongs when they connect but have a lot of swing and miss in their game.

Chris Davis is not helped by the juiced balls. 

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19 minutes ago, Finisher said:

Two words: juiced ball. Christian fricking Walker has 19 homeruns. Not to totally dismiss what these guys are doing, but you have to take into consideration how wonky this season is shaping up.

There are a lot of guys in the league slugging less than .500. These guys are performing above average, even if the bar is higher.

Counterpoint: Anyone remember Jimmy Paredes? He was great for a solid couple of months.

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36 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

That's usually because the ones that can hit aren't backups.

Very true. And if Severino continues to hit, he will get paid above backup pay. Obviously Rutschman is the future. I'd sell high on Severino.

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28 minutes ago, Finisher said:

Two words: juiced ball. Christian fricking Walker has 19 homeruns. Not to totally dismiss what these guys are doing, but you have to take into consideration how wonky this season is shaping up.

That thought crossed my mind too. Not a good season to truly evaluate players.

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1 minute ago, Dark Helmet said:

That thought crossed my mind too. Not a good season to truly evaluate players.

It's OK if this is the ball they use going forward.

No way to know what MLB will do to it next.

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48 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm thinking "very good defensive" catchers who are really cheap aren't getting sent down, even if they can't hit.  Geez the O's kept Caleb "0 RBI" Joseph for a season.

I do agree with your second point.

This is the same club that bid against itself for the current Davis contract and who kept trotting out Ubaldo Jimenez.

I wouldn't use them as an example.

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5 hours ago, Frobby said:

Mancini .280/.339/.534

Santander .304/.344/.509

Nunez .256/.326/.521

That is really a pretty nice 2/3/4.    Mancini and Núñez have been doing it pretty much all year.    Santander has kind of come out of nowhere, though he looked like he had the potential for this if things went right when we chose him in the Rule 5 draft.    

If this turned out to be about the norm for those three, that would be a decent offensive core to build around.   Santander has shown himself to be a decent defender, too.

The Orioles are due some good luck with players. Fingers crossed. 

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5 hours ago, Dark Helmet said:

You have to hit the ball first lol.

Sort of like how a bunch of players had monster years (Larry Sheets and his .921 OPS for example) in 1987 and then returned back to reality in 1988.

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6 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm thinking "very good defensive" catchers who are really cheap aren't getting sent down, even if they can't hit.  Geez the O's kept Caleb "0 RBI" Joseph for a season.

I do agree with your second point.

Citing RBI stats to prove your point... in 2019 that is worth at least 5 demerits.

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