Chances are that neither will but the more guys Elisa aquires increases the odds. A lot of these guys, Kevin Smith, Stallings, Peek, etc., are very similar profiles. Guys who can pitch and maybe a velocity bump away from being something more.
I see a lot of discussion about Stallings, but not much about Pinto. Would that be because there is more readily available info on Stallings, or due to the fact that Pinto, at least in this point in time, is not considered to be as good a pitcher. IMO if one of the two turn out to be a steady, solid Pitcher for the Orioles, that would be a HR for us.
I guess it's at least good that we got to "scout" him a bit on video and through instructional camp. At least we have a sense that he likely didn't really let himself go during all of this down time. So that's good.
But is this a type that Elias targeted for a reason, or is it a live arm that Elias took as a way to dump salary? His comments indicate the former, but we really won't know until they get to playing for real in 2021.
I honestly feel like even this board, which has a lot of people who know a lot more about baseball than me, falls into the sentimental trap. I think that's part of being a fan, so I kind of support it to be honest.
But I think this poster is right to point out that Elias just isn't playing that game. He's not blowing smoke, except for the quality of the guys we got back. Hopefully that's all true.
The thing is, we are starting to see signs that they are REALLY concerned, even about "small" amounts of money. They would have had to pay $500K if they declined Iglesias's option, they got out of it for free this way. In addition, we heard talk that coaching moves were at least partly due to financial reasons. And that probably was under a million too.
So we are seeing signs that not only are they concerned about money, but there are POSSIBLE indications they are so concerned that "trivial" amounds like half a million might be influencing decisions.
Now that doesn't square with tendering Mancini. But maybe they felt the PR hit would just be too much if they didn't. It would get rid of any plausible deniability that money wasn't the #1 factor... for Iglesias they can talk up Stallings and Pinto, for the coaching situation they can claim it is based on what coaches they really wanted. So we can look at those moves and see indications that saving even small amounts of money has become an overriding priority, but we can't prove it. Non-tendering a guy coming off 5 months of chemotherapy would be about absolutely nothing but money and would be such a bad look that they couldn't get away with it.