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The issue is likely tied to two points.

1. A TON of people were traded to include a lot of arms. That likely minimized the returns for Givens, but makes Elias look pretty good in terms of dealing Cashner early.

2. Elias obviously didn't get a return he likes. In baseball like Poker, sometimes you need to have all the cards in order to bluff. Standing pat now may make bluffing later much easier.

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I'm just surprised we didn't move Villar because I think there's no way we tender him for arbitration in the offseason.   And everyone knows that so dealing him after the season seems unlikely.

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33 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

Kinda weird given the state of our rotation but okay

Oh no!  Not Straily, the soul of and the future of our franchise!

I'm sorry guys.  I'm trying, but I think I've run out of sarcasm.

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1 minute ago, SteveA said:

I'm just surprised we didn't move Villar because I think there's no way we tender him for arbitration in the offseason.   And everyone knows that so dealing him after the season seems unlikely.

We can't trade him now, but I don't thing that would stop us from putting him on waivers and letting someone else pick up the rest of his contract for this year.

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58 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Brian Cashman held firm and there was far much pressure on him to do a deal for pitching.

Yeah, but that was stupid. The Yankees did nothing. They should have done something.

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10 minutes ago, GoldGlove21 said:

Standing pat now may make bluffing later much easier.

That's an excellent point. he's creating his reputation now for future use. 

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30 minutes ago, SteveA said:

I'm just surprised we didn't move Villar because I think there's no way we tender him for arbitration in the offseason.   And everyone knows that so dealing him after the season seems unlikely.

Someone had to want him first.

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1 hour ago, AceKing said:

I am sure our young, 35 year old first time GM, learned a lot this deadline.

He was not golfing.

Whoops it was Hyde who said he might be playing golf during the deadline.  

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36 minutes ago, GoldGlove21 said:

The issue is likely tied to two points.

1. A TON of people were traded to include a lot of arms. That likely minimized the returns for Givens, but makes Elias look pretty good in terms of dealing Cashner early.

2. Elias obviously didn't get a return he likes. In baseball like Poker, sometimes you need to have all the cards in order to bluff. Standing pat now may make bluffing later much easier.

Probably giving up runs in his last 3 games is why no one wanted him.

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37 minutes ago, SteveA said:

I'm just surprised we didn't move Villar because I think there's no way we tender him for arbitration in the offseason.   And everyone knows that so dealing him after the season seems unlikely.

If everyone is so sure the Orioles won’t tender him in the off-season, why pay for him now?

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9 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

If everyone is so sure the Orioles won’t tender him in the off-season, why pay for him now?

Because you want him for the rest of the season.

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35 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Someone had to want him first.

Yep once the Cubs got Kemp there really wasn't another match.

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36 minutes ago, atomic said:

Whoops it was Hyde who said he might be playing golf during the deadline.  

Elias was working on Bronycon.Last convention  ever.Wants to have a nice costume.

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Perfectly fine with it. Don't panic and dump for the sake of dumping. Besides, all the guys rumored to be on the block were all under contract for at least another year. The only pending FA among those, we indeed dealt. No need to budge from whatever we were asking for.

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