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6 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm not sure how often it actually happens.  I think it is a bit more rare than folks here are suggesting.

I agree it’s not that common.   But how would you describe what “it” is in your first sentence?    How close to the cutoff dates does it need to be to raise suspicion that service time played heavily into the timing?     In theory, anytime between the first day after FA eligibility and sometime in late May/early June might qualify, depending whether the objective is to ward off FA status vs. arb eligibility.  

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Roch said that a couple (I take that to be two) will be called up tomorrow.   I think that is likely to be Trumbo and Smith just because Trumbo is an established veteran and Smith has been with the team almost all season with an injury  interrupting his time of the 25 man roster.  His recent option was just roster management.

I don't want to see Mountcastle and Hays called up.   I want a 7th season of Mountcastle and Hays as quite frankly not earned it.  No reason to promote him and have him hit no better than what he is doing at AAA.

On Tuesday I hope to see the following:

Shepherd has earned a callup to the rotation along with Means, Bundy, Wojo and Brooks. I am anxious to see what he can do after an effective August at AAA.

I think we see Tanner Scott, Phillips and Cervenka who have all been pitching well lately at AAA and may help the pen.   Cervenka is a Elias pickup who looks interesting.  A lefty reliever who has a pretty good past record.

Wynn as the third catcher.   He may take playing time away for Sisco.

I want to see if Mason Williams is a better center field than Wilkerson and Santander.   And whether he will hits in the majors.  

I think the O's DFA Blach,  Eshelman and Ynoa.  The first two are pickups that did not work out and Ynoa falls in the Yacabonis category for me.  A guy out of options next year who did not prove himself this year.

What do you think?   Its all happens soon.

 

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I doubt Mason Williams is getting called up, if he didn’t get called up before now.    He arguably earned it, but they never acted so I doubt they’ll do it now.    

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36 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I doubt Mason Williams is getting called up, if he didn’t get called up before now.    He arguably earned it, but they never acted so I doubt they’ll do it now.    

It was a roster issue before now.  Williams was not on the 40 man so someone has to go to make room.  On Tuesday the AAA season is over and guys that are on the 40 man roster who were at AAA will not be needed.   Blach and Eshelman are two that I see are likely to be DFA'd.  And because other pitchers will be called up as the roster expands a pitcher like Ynoa who has not pitched well this season and has no options left could be DFA making more roster space for Williams.

Had Williams been on the 40 man roster this season I think he would have been called up to see if he could play center better that Wilkerson or Santander.

I also think the O's had hopes that Hays would tear up AAA pitching and force his way onto the O's roster as the centerfielder.  But that has not happen.  It looks to me like Hays start 2020 at AAA until he proves he can hit AAA pitching.

Ok, Now that I have said all that Elias could call up Mountcastle and Hays and then I will say "Never mind".

One more thing.  Wilkerson does not hit lefties.  Williams does even though he is a lefty batter.  He could platoon with Wilkerson in center.   That is something that others like Stewart and Smith can't/shouldn't do. And he might do better than Santander.  I don't know that for sure but I would like to find out.

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13 minutes ago, wildcard said:

It was a roster issue before now.  Williams was not on the 40 man so someone has to go to make room.  On Tuesday the AAA season is over and guys that are on the 40 man roster who were at AAA will not be needed.   Blach and Eshelman are two that I see are likely to be DFA'd.  And because other pitchers will be called up as the roster expands a pitcher like Ynoa who has not pitched well this season and has no options left could be DFA making more roster space for Williams.

Had Williams been on the 40 man roster this season I think he would have been called up to see if he could play center better that Wilkerson or Santander.

I also think the O's had hopes that Hays would tear up AAA pitching and force his way onto the O's roster as the centerfielder.  But that has not happen.  It looks to me like Hays start 2020 at AAA until he proves he can hit AAA pitching.

Ok, Now that I have said all that Elias could call up Mountcastle and Hays and then I will say "Never mind".

One more thing.  Wilkerson does not hit lefties.  Williams does even though he is a lefty batter.  He could platoon with Wilkerson in center.   That is something that others like Stewart and Smith can't/shouldn't do. And he might do better than Santander.  I don't know that for sure but I would like to find out.

If they wanted Williams up here why would they let an Eschelman/Blach stop them?

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15 hours ago, eddie83 said:

If they wanted Williams up here why would they let an Eschelman/Blach stop them?

Yep.  The starting pitching has been that thin.  For the O's and the Tides.  

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16 minutes ago, wildcard said:

It was a roster issue before now.  Williams was not on the 40 man so someone has to go to make room.  On Tuesday the AAA season is over and guys that are on the 40 man roster who were at AAA will not be needed.   Blach and Eshelman are two that I see are likely to be DFA'd.  And because other pitchers will be called up as the roster expands a pitcher like Ynoa who has not pitched well this season and has no options left could be DFA making more roster space for Williams.

Had Williams been on the 40 man roster this season I think he would have been called up to see if he could play center better that Wilkerson or Santander.

I also think the O's had hopes that Hays would tear up AAA pitching and force his way onto the O's roster as the centerfielder.  But that has not happen.  It looks to me like Hays start 2020 at AAA until he proves he can hit AAA pitching.

Ok, Now that I have said all that Elias could call up Mountcastle and Hays and then I will say "Never mind".

One more thing.  Wilkerson does not hit lefties.  Williams does even though he is a lefty batter.  He could platoon with Wilkerson in center.   That is something that others like Stewart and Smith can't/shouldn't do. And he might do better than Santander.  I don't know that for sure but I would like to find out.

OK, solid reasoning here.    I’ll go on record as saying Williams is superior to Wilkerson in all respects as a candidate to play CF.   I like Stevie as a superutility guy, hate him as a regular option in CF.

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6 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Yep.  The start pitching has been that thin.  For the O's and the Tides.  

If they have enough guys to cycle thru who aren’t any good losing one of them would not have hurt them. 

If anything a better argument could be made that for some reason they wanted Peterson on the roster and they didn’t have any room on the 25.  

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12 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

If they have enough guys to cycle thru who aren’t any good losing one of them would not have hurt them. 

If anything a better argument could be made that for some reason they wanted Peterson on the roster and they didn’t have any room on the 25.  

Peterson can do things that Williams can't do.  Peterson can play 2B/3B/1B/RF/LF.   He was called up when Ruiz left to be with his wife having a baby.  When Ruiz came back Stewart was hurt so Peterson moved to left.   If the O's DFA'd Peterson that versatility might be gone because he is out of options.

Peterson and Williams offer that team two different set of skills.  That is one of the reason that Peterson is still on the roster.   If Alberto, Villar or Ruiz get hurt Peterson will be needed.

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7 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Peterson can do things that Williams can't do.  Peterson can play 2B/3B/1B/RF/LF.   He was called up when Ruiz left to be with his wife having a baby.  When Ruiz came back Stewart was hurt so Peterson moved to left.   If the O's DFA'd Peterson that versatility might be gone because he is out of options.

Peterson and Williams offer that team two different set of skills.  That is one of the reason that Peterson is still on the roster.   If Alberto, Villar or Ruiz get hurt Peterson will be needed.

My point is if they really liked Williams, Peterson is not someone who should have blocked him.  Wilkerson is a utility player also. Teams do not carry 2 utility players  .

If they bring him up I’m fine with it as a reward but if he was someone they truly liked then he would have been up awhile ago.  

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